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Li deia a la meva dona i li deia: "Totes les baralles no són la teva. Fes-te el ritme". I els diria als joves i als altres alguna vegada: "No tingueu pressa. La nostra lluita no és una lluita que duri un dia, una setmana, un mes o un any o una vida. És una lluita en curs".</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Així que, paciència, sí, sí.</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> I en el discurs de la Marxa a Washington, vaig tenir molta retòrica i, al final, sabia dins de la meva pròpia ànima que seria un llarg recorregut i ho crec. Però no canvies el món, la societat, en pocs dies, i és millor. És millor ser un pilot de llum que ser un petard <em>[riu]</em> .</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Correcte.</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> Perquè si ets un pilot de llum, hi estaràs. Un petard ve dins teu, només surt. Ets aquí un moment i te n'has anat al moment següent.</p><p> [ <em>música: "Po' Pilgrim of Sorrow" de James Horner i Sweet Honey in the Rock</em> ]</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Sóc Krista Tippett i això és <em>On Being</em> . Avui recordem el congressista i llegenda dels drets civils John Lewis, que va morir la setmana passada. Vaig tenir el gran honor de parlar amb ell a Montgomery, Alabama, el 2013, com a part d'un pelegrinatge de drets civils del Congrés transversal que va dirigir durant molts anys.</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> M'escoltes? Tot i que aquí és una tensió creativa, és una línia que estàs caminant.</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> Sí.</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> I sembla que quan llegeixo la història del moviment, tu i altres camineu d'anada i tornada a través d'aquesta línia tot el temps. Però era que mantenir, com tu dius, el ritme, d'alguna manera sempre poder tirar enrere i veure el llarg recorregut, suposo. És aquesta postura, és aquesta actitud.</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> Però volíem acabar amb la discriminació ara. Volíem que la gent es pogués registrar i votar ara. I teníem un eslògan anomenat "Llibertat ara". Però per donar una mena d'efecte revolucionari, trigaria molt més quan poguéssiu canviar les ments, els cors i les ànimes de les persones.</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Com flueixen aquestes experiències, aquests valors que vas aprendre, a la teva vida política en els nostres temps?</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> Bé, crec que avui sóc una persona molt millor i un ésser humà molt millor. En algun moment, quan estic assegut al terra de la Cambra o en una reunió del comitè, tinc ganes de dir alguna vegada, ja saps, vaig passar per aquí una vegada. Sabeu, si hagués tornat a Nashville o a Geòrgia en una protesta o potser en el viatge per la llibertat, què faríem? Què diria Martin Luther King Jr.? Què faria Gandhi? Així que no pots renunciar a determinats principis bàsics i ensenyaments bàsics.</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> No crec que ningú acusaria el Congrés ara mateix de ser una comunitat estimada.</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> Bé, crec que ens queda una mica de distància per convertir-nos en la comunitat estimada, però no renunciaré al Congrés. I és la meva esperança que, quan els membres del Congrés vinguin de viatge i viatge i pelegrinatge, aprenguin alguna cosa, que creixi i esdevinguin millors membres i millors éssers humans.</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Ja saps, alguns dels aspectes radicals d'aquesta tradició de no-violència en què t'has submergit, que ara portes a la teva vida com a congressista, aquí hi ha alguna cosa que vaig llegir al teu llibre, que després de l'atemptat amb bombes a l'església de Birmingham en què van matar quatre nenes, on vaig tenir el privilegi d'estar amb tu aquest cap de setmana, el reverend King va dir: "Malgrat els temps difícils, la vida és un gresol com... foscor d'aquesta hora, no hem de perdre la fe en els nostres germans blancs". Ja saps, aquesta noció molt exigent no només de tenir fe en tu mateix o fe en el teu moviment, sinó fe en els teus enemics.</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> Has de creure i no pots renunciar mai, mai, a cap possibilitat. En forma part, com he dit, des del principi. Ja està fet. Només has de trobar la manera de fer-ho real.</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Recordo quan escrius sobre ser estudiant i estar exposat al món de la filosofia i la teologia i llegint sobre la noció de dialèctica i pensant en la segregació com a tesi i la lluita contra la desegregació com a antítesi i la integració com a síntesi, el final. Em pregunto com ho veus ara, perquè la dialèctica comença de nou i què...</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> Bé, no crec que sigui necessari tornar a començar. Però vaig tenir un professor meravellós quan estava a l'American Baptist College. Es deia John Lewis Powell, i començava a discutir aquesta idea de la tesi i l'antítesi i la síntesi, i corria per la pissarra escrivint i saltant.</p><p> D'això s'ha tractat la lluita, unir aquestes forces en competició, unir els éssers humans i crear un sentit de comunitat, crear aquest sentit de família, que a partir del bé, el bé ja hi és. L'amor hi és. Com ho fas real? Com pintem el quadre? És com un artista fent servir un llenç. Com aconsegueixes que la gent passi d'A a B i aconsegueixes C? O d'un a dos i aconseguir-ne tres? Que estàs en un camí i has de ser coherent i has de ser persistent.</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> I pacient.</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> I pacient.</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Correcte.</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> I es tracta de ser fidel, ser honest, ser obert.</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Amb cada assoliment de la humanitat i, sens dubte, amb el moviment dels drets civils, és tan clar que es van produir tants canvis importants, bons canvis i, tanmateix, encara hi ha molta més feina per fer. Apareixen complicacions imprevistes, apareixen contratemps, que fins i tot les millors coses que fem romanen imperfectes i incompletes. Com penses això i on és el moviment pel que fa a la teva fe?</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> Bé, hi penso, però has de creure que hi pot haver contratemps, hi pot haver algunes decepcions, hi pot haver alguna interrupció. Però, de nou, cal fer una mirada llarga i dura. Amb aquesta creença, anirà bé; va a funcionar. Si no va passar durant la teva vida, potser, potser no, però passaria durant la vida d'algú. Però has de fer tot el que puguis fer mentre ocupes aquest espai durant el teu temps. I de vegades sento que no estic fent prou per intentar inspirar una altra generació de persones a trobar una manera d'interposar-se, de crear problemes, bons problemes. Només faig una mica de soroll.</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Crec que encarnes les coses que parles i que et mirem tant com t'escoltem. Mou els peus <em>[riu]</em> . Per tant, John Lewis, vull donar-te moltes gràcies per la vida que has viscut i per aquesta conversa que hem pogut mantenir amb tu aquesta tarda.</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> Bé, moltes gràcies. Ho vaig gaudir. Gràcies.</p><p> [ <em>música: "Vaig a viure la vida que canto" de RL Knowles</em> ]</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> John Lewis va morir a Atlanta, Geòrgia, el 17 de juliol de 2020, a l'edat de 80 anys. Era un congressista demòcrata del districte 5 de Geòrgia. Va ser autor de diversos llibres extraordinaris, <em>Walking with the Wind: A Memoir of the Movement</em> , <em>Across That Bridge,</em> i una sèrie de novel·les gràfiques de tres parts, <em>March</em> .</p><p> [ <em>música: "Vaig a viure la vida que canto" de RL Knowles</em> ]</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Gràcies especials aquesta setmana a Brenda Jones a l'oficina del congressista Lewis; Gwen Haynes; Jeremy Burns; Burns Strider; i Liz McClosky, Doug Tanner i totes les altres grans persones del Faith and Politics Institute.</p><p> [ <em>música: "new music" de Mavis Staples</em> ]</p><p> El projecte On Being és Chris Heagle, Lily Percy, Laurén Dørdal, Erin Colasacco, Kristin Lin, Eddie Gonzalez, Lilian Vo, Lucas Johnson, Suzette Burley, Zack Rose, Serri Graslie, Colleen Scheck, Christiane Wartell, Julie Siple, Gretchen Honnold i Jhaleh Akhavan.</p><p> El projecte On Being es troba a les terres de Dakota. El nostre preciós tema musical és proporcionat i compost per Zoë Keating. I l'última veu que escolteu cantar al final del nostre espectacle és Cameron Kinghorn.</p><p> <em>On Being</em> és una producció independent de The On Being Project. Es distribueix a les emissores de ràdio públiques per WNYC Studios. Vaig crear aquest programa a American Public Media.</p><p> Els nostres socis finançadors inclouen:</p><p> L'Institut Fetzer, ajudant a construir la base espiritual per a un món amorós. Trobeu-los a fetzer.org.</p><p> Fundació Kalliopeia. Dedicat a reconnectar l'ecologia, la cultura i l'espiritualitat. Donar suport a organitzacions i iniciatives que mantenen una relació sagrada amb la vida a la Terra. Més informació a kalliopeia.org.</p><p> Humanity United, avançant en la dignitat humana a casa i arreu del món. 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A truly great man, and one for us to keep listening to and looking up to.</p> </div> <div class="comment-actions"> <a href="https://www.dailygood.org/story/2678/-p-p-iframe-frameborder-no-height-300-scrolling-no-src-https-w-soundcloud-com-player-url-https-3a-api-soundcloud-com-tracks-304665801-and-color-23ff5500-and-auto-play-false-and-hide-related-false-and-show-comments-true-and-show-user-true-and-am-on-being/?t=showComment&cid=9051#addcomment" class="reply-link" data-cmt-id="9051" data-cmt-author="martina"><i class="bi bi-reply"></i> Reply</a> <span class="btn-light post_btn small"></span> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="comment-item" id="cmt_9048"> <div class="comment-container"> <div class="comment-avatar"> <img src="https://pod.servicespace.org/pics/mem/blank.jpg" alt="User avatar"> </div> <div class="comment-content-wrapper"> <div class="comment-meta"> <span class="comment-author">Kristin Pedemonti</span> <span class="comment-date">Feb 1, 2021</span> <a href="https://www.dailygood.org/story/2678/-p-p-iframe-frameborder-no-height-300-scrolling-no-src-https-w-soundcloud-com-player-url-https-3a-api-soundcloud-com-tracks-304665801-and-color-23ff5500-and-auto-play-false-and-hide-related-false-and-show-comments-true-and-show-user-true-and-am-on-being/?t=showComment&cid=9048" class="ms-auto link-icon text-muted"><i class='fa fa-link'></i></a> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <p>To love like John Lewis did is extraordinary and deeply needed as we continue to march onward, and I can only begin to imagine the deep frustration, sorrow at how very far we've still to go. 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