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Jeg ville fortalt kona mi og si: «Hver kamp er ikke din kamp. Og jeg vil si det til ungdommene og andre en gang, "Ikke skynd deg. Kampen vår er ikke en kamp som varer i en dag, en uke, en måned eller ett år eller ett liv. Det er en pågående kamp."</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Så, tålmodighet – riktig, ja.</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> Og i talen til mars i Washington hadde jeg mye retorikk, og til slutt visste jeg i min egen sjel at det kom til å bli et langt trekk, og jeg tror det. Men du endrer ikke verden, samfunnet, på noen få dager, og det er bedre. Det er bedre å være pilot enn å være en fyrverker <em>[ler]</em> .</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Rett.</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> For hvis du er en pilot, kommer du til å være rundt. Et fyrverkeri kommer inn i deg, bare gå av. Du er her det ene øyeblikket og du er borte i det neste øyeblikket.</p><p> [ <em>musikk: "Po' Pilgrim of Sorrow" av James Horner & Sweet Honey in the Rock</em> ]</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Jeg er Krista Tippett og dette er <em>On Being</em> . I dag minnes kongressmedlem og borgerrettighetslegende John Lewis som døde forrige uke. Jeg hadde den store æren av å snakke med ham i Montgomery, Alabama i 2013 - som en del av en tverrpartisan kongressens borgerrettighetspilegrimsreise som han ledet i mange år.</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Hører du meg? Selv om det er en kreativ spenning her, er det en linje du går.</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> Ja.</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Og det høres ut som når jeg leser bevegelsens historie, går du og andre frem og tilbake over den linjen hele tiden. Men det var det å holde, som du sier, tempoet, det å alltid kunne trekke seg tilbake og se det lange trekk, antar jeg. Det er den holdningen, det er den holdningen.</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> Men vi ønsket å få slutt på diskriminering nå. Vi ønsket at folk skulle kunne registrere seg og stemme nå. Og vi hadde et slagord kalt «Frihet nå». Men for å gi en slags revolusjonerende effekt, det kom til å ta mye lengre tid når du er i stand til å endre sinn og hjerter og sjeler til mennesker.</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Hvordan flyter de erfaringene, de verdiene du lærte, inn i livet ditt i politikken i vår tid?</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> Vel, jeg tror i dag at jeg er en mye bedre person og mye bedre menneske. En gang når jeg sitter på gulvet i huset eller i et utvalgsmøte, har jeg lyst til å si at jeg en gang har gått på denne måten en gang før. Du vet, hvis jeg var tilbake i Nashville eller i Georgia på en protest eller kanskje på frihetsturen, hva ville vi gjort? Hva ville Martin Luther King Jr. si? Hva ville Gandhi gjort? Så du kan ikke gi opp visse grunnleggende prinsipper og grunnleggende læresetninger.</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Jeg tror ikke noen ville anklage kongressen akkurat nå for å være et elsket samfunn.</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> Vel, jeg tror vi har et stykke unna å bli det elskede samfunnet, men jeg vil ikke gi opp kongressen. Og det er mitt håp at når medlemmer av kongressen kommer på turer og reise og pilegrimsreise, at de vil lære noe, at det vil vokse og bli bedre medlemmer og bedre mennesker.</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Du vet, noen av de radikale aspektene ved denne ikke-voldstradisjonen som du var gjennomsyret av, som du nå bringer til livet ditt som kongressmedlem – her er noe jeg leste i boken din, at etter brannbombingen av Birmingham-kirken der fire små jenter ble drept, hvor jeg var privilegert å være sammen med deg denne helgen, sa pastor King: «Til tider, like hardt som hardt er livet i stål. denne timen må vi ikke miste troen på våre hvite brødre.» Du vet, den svært krevende forestillingen om ikke bare å ha tro på deg selv eller tro på din bevegelse, men tro på fiendene dine.</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> Du må tro, og du kan aldri, aldri, gi opp noen mulighet. Det er som sagt en del av det fra begynnelsen. Det er allerede gjort. Du må bare finne en måte å gjøre det ekte på.</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Jeg husker når du skriver om det å være student og å bli utsatt for filosofiens og teologiens verden og lese om forestillingen om dialektikken og tenke segregering som en avhandling og kampen mot desegregering som antitesen og integrasjonen som syntesen, slutten. Jeg lurer på hvordan du ser det nå, for begynner dialektikken på nytt og hva …</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> Vel, jeg tror ikke det er nødvendig å begynne på nytt. Men jeg hadde en fantastisk lærer da jeg gikk på American Baptist College. Han het John Lewis Powell, og han begynte å diskutere denne ideen om oppgaven og antitesen og syntesen, og han løp rundt på tavlen og skrev og hoppet.</p><p> Det er det kampen har handlet om, å bringe disse konkurrerende kreftene sammen, bringe mennesker sammen, og skape en følelse av fellesskap, å skape denne følelsen av familie, at ut av det gode - det gode allerede er der. Kjærligheten er der. Hvordan gjør du det ekte? Hvordan maler du bildet? Det er som en kunstner som bruker et lerret. Hvordan får du folk til å flytte fra kanskje A til B og du får C? Eller fra en til to og få tre? At du er på vei og du må være konsekvent og du må være utholdende.</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Og tålmodig.</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> Og tålmodig.</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Rett.</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> Og det handler om å være trofast, være ærlig, være åpen.</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Det er så tydelig med hver eneste prestasjon av menneskeheten og absolutt med borgerrettighetsbevegelsen at så mye viktig endring, god forandring, skjedde og likevel er det mye mer arbeid å gjøre. Uforutsette komplikasjoner dukker opp, tilbakeslag dukker opp, at selv alle de beste tingene vi gjør forblir ufullkomne og ufullstendige. Hvordan tenker du om det og om hvor bevegelsen er i forhold til din tro?</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> Vel, jeg tenker på det, men du må tro at det kan være tilbakeslag, det kan være noen skuffelser, det kan være noen avbrudd. Men igjen, du må ta det lange, harde blikket. Med denne troen kommer det til å bli OK; det kommer til å ordne seg. Hvis det ikke skjedde i løpet av livet ditt, så kanskje, ikke kanskje, men det ville skje i noens levetid. Men du må gjøre alt du kan gjøre mens du okkuperer denne plassen i løpet av tiden din. Og noen ganger føler jeg at jeg ikke gjør nok for å prøve å inspirere en annen generasjon mennesker til å finne en måte å komme i veien på, lage trøbbel, bra bråk. Jeg bare bråker litt.</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Jeg tror du legemliggjør tingene du snakker og at vi ser på deg like mye som hører deg. Du beveger føttene <em>[ler]</em> . Så, John Lewis, jeg vil takke deg så mye for livet du har levd og for denne samtalen vi har vært i stand til å ha med deg i ettermiddag.</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> Vel, tusen takk. Jeg likte det. Takk.</p><p> [ <em>musikk: "I'm Gonna Live the Life I Sing About" av RL Knowles</em> ]</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> John Lewis døde i Atlanta, Georgia 17. juli 2020, 80 år gammel. Han var en demokratisk kongressmedlem fra Georgias 5. distrikt. Han var forfatteren av flere enorme bøker, <em>Walking with the Wind: A Memoir of the Movement</em> , <em>Across That Bridge,</em> og en tredelt grafisk romanserie, <em>March</em> .</p><p> [ <em>musikk: "I'm Gonna Live the Life I Sing About" av RL Knowles</em> ]</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Spesiell takk denne uken til Brenda Jones på kongressmedlem Lewis kontor; Gwen Haynes; Jeremy Burns; Burns Strider; og Liz McClosky, Doug Tanner og alle de andre flotte menneskene ved Faith and Politics Institute.</p><p> [ <em>musikk: "ny musikk" av Mavis Staples</em> ]</p><p> The On Being Project er Chris Heagle, Lily Percy, Laurén Dørdal, Erin Colasacco, Kristin Lin, Eddie Gonzalez, Lilian Vo, Lucas Johnson, Suzette Burley, Zack Rose, Serri Graslie, Colleen Scheck, Christiane Wartell, Julie Siple, Gretchen Honnold og Jhaleh Akhavan</p><p> On Being Project ligger på Dakota-land. Vår nydelige temamusikk er levert og komponert av Zoë Keating. Og den siste stemmen du hører synge på slutten av showet vårt er Cameron Kinghorn.</p><p> <em>On Being</em> er en uavhengig produksjon av The On Being Project. Den distribueres til offentlige radiostasjoner av WNYC Studios. Jeg laget dette showet på American Public Media.</p><p> Våre finansieringspartnere inkluderer:</p><p> Fetzer Institute, som hjelper til med å bygge det åndelige grunnlaget for en kjærlig verden. Finn dem på fetzer.org.</p><p> Kalliopeia-stiftelsen. Dedikert til å gjenopprette økologi, kultur og spiritualitet. Støtte organisasjoner og initiativer som opprettholder et hellig forhold til livet på jorden. Lær mer på kalliopeia.org.</p><p> Humanity United, fremmer menneskeverdet hjemme og rundt om i verden. 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A truly great man, and one for us to keep listening to and looking up to.</p> </div> <div class="comment-actions"> <a href="https://www.dailygood.org/story/2678/-p-p-iframe-frameborder-no-height-300-scrolling-no-src-https-w-soundcloud-com-player-url-https-3a-api-soundcloud-com-tracks-304665801-and-color-23ff5500-and-auto-play-false-and-hide-related-false-and-show-comments-true-and-show-user-true-and-am-on-being/?t=showComment&cid=9051#addcomment" class="reply-link" data-cmt-id="9051" data-cmt-author="martina"><i class="bi bi-reply"></i> Reply</a> <span class="btn-light post_btn small"></span> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="comment-item" id="cmt_9048"> <div class="comment-container"> <div class="comment-avatar"> <img src="https://pod.servicespace.org/pics/mem/blank.jpg" alt="User avatar"> </div> <div class="comment-content-wrapper"> <div class="comment-meta"> <span class="comment-author">Kristin Pedemonti</span> <span class="comment-date">Feb 1, 2021</span> <a href="https://www.dailygood.org/story/2678/-p-p-iframe-frameborder-no-height-300-scrolling-no-src-https-w-soundcloud-com-player-url-https-3a-api-soundcloud-com-tracks-304665801-and-color-23ff5500-and-auto-play-false-and-hide-related-false-and-show-comments-true-and-show-user-true-and-am-on-being/?t=showComment&cid=9048" class="ms-auto link-icon text-muted"><i class='fa fa-link'></i></a> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <p>To love like John Lewis did is extraordinary and deeply needed as we continue to march onward, and I can only begin to imagine the deep frustration, sorrow at how very far we've still to go. 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