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Ženi bi rekel: "Vsak boj ni tvoj boj. Umiri se." Mladim in drugim bi včasih rekel: "Naj se vam ne mudi. Naš boj ni boj, ki traja en dan, en teden, en mesec ali eno leto ali eno življenje. Je stalen boj."</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Torej, potrpežljivost - prav, ja.</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> In v govoru Marša na Washington sem imel veliko retorike in na koncu sem v svoji duši vedel, da bo to dolga pot, in verjamem v to. A sveta, družbe ne spremeniš v nekaj dneh in je bolje. Bolje je biti pilot kot pa petarda <em>[smeh]</em> .</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Prav.</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> Ker če si pilot, boš zraven. V vas prihaja petarda, samo poči. En trenutek si tukaj in v naslednjem te ni več.</p><p> [ <em>glasba: “Po' Pilgrim of Sorrow” Jamesa Hornerja & Sweet Honey in the Rock</em> ]</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Sem Krista Tippett in to je <em>On Being</em> . Danes se spominjamo kongresnika in legende državljanskih pravic Johna Lewisa, ki je umrl prejšnji teden. Imel sem veliko čast govoriti z njim v Montgomeryju v Alabami leta 2013 - kot del medstrankarskega kongresnega romanja za državljanske pravice, ki ga je vodil dolga leta.</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Me slišiš? Čeprav gre tukaj za ustvarjalno napetost, gre za črto, po kateri hodite.</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> Da.</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Ko berem zgodovino gibanja, se sliši, kot da vi in drugi ves čas hodite sem ter tja čez to črto. Ampak to je bilo to ohranjanje, kot pravite, tempa, da se nekako vedno lahko umaknem in vidim na dolge razdalje, predvidevam. To je ta drža, to je ta odnos.</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> Toda zdaj smo želeli končati diskriminacijo. Želeli smo, da se ljudje zdaj lahko registrirajo in glasujejo. In imeli smo slogan z naslovom "Svoboda zdaj." Toda za nekakšen revolucionarni učinek bi trajalo veliko dlje, ko bi lahko spremenili misli, srca in duše ljudi.</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Kako se te izkušnje, te vrednote, ki ste se jih naučili, pretakajo v vaše življenje v politiki v našem času?</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> No, mislim, da sem danes veliko boljši človek in veliko boljše človeško bitje. Včasih, ko sedim v dvorani ali na sestanku odbora, se mi zdi, da bi rekel, veš, enkrat sem že šel mimo te poti. Veste, če bi bil nazaj v Nashvillu ali v Georgii na protestu ali morda na svobodni vožnji, kaj bi storili? Kaj bi rekel Martin Luther King mlajši? Kaj bi Gandhi naredil? Zato se ne morete odreči določenim osnovnim načelom in osnovnim naukom.</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Mislim, da zdaj nihče ne bi obtožil kongresa, da je ljubljena skupnost.</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> No, mislim, da smo še malo oddaljeni od tega, da postanemo ljubljena skupnost, vendar ne bom obupal nad kongresom. In upam, da se bodo člani kongresa, ko pridejo na izlete, potovanja in romanja, kaj naučili, da bodo rasli in postali boljši člani in boljši ljudje.</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Veste, nekateri radikalni vidiki te tradicije nenasilja, v katero ste bili potopljeni, ki jih zdaj vnašate v svoje življenje kot kongresnik – tukaj je nekaj, kar sem prebral v vaši knjigi, da je po bombardiranju birminghamske cerkve, v kateri so bile ubite štiri deklice, kjer sem imel čast biti ta vikend z vami, velečastiti King rekel: »Včasih je življenje težko, tako trdo kot lončeno jeklo. … V kljub temi te ure ne smemo izgubiti vere v naše bele brate.« Veste, ta zelo zahteven pojem ne samo vere vase ali vere v svoje gibanje, ampak vere v svoje sovražnike.</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> Moraš verjeti in nikoli, nikoli, ne moreš opustiti nobene možnosti. To je del tega, kot sem rekel, od začetka. To je že narejeno. Samo najti morate način, da to uresničite.</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Spomnim se, ko ste pisali o tem, da ste bili študent in da ste bili izpostavljeni svetu filozofije in teologije ter brali o pojmu dialektike in razmišljali o segregaciji kot tezi ter boju proti desegregaciji kot antitezi in integraciji kot sintezi, konec. Sprašujem se, kako zdaj to vidite, kajti ali se dialektika začne znova in kaj …</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> No, mislim, da ni treba začeti znova. Imel pa sem čudovitega učitelja, ko sem bil na American Baptist College. Ime mu je bilo John Lewis Powell in začel je razpravljati o tej zamisli o tezi, antitezi in sintezi ter tekal po tabli, pisal in skakal.</p><p> Za to je bil boj, združiti te tekmovalne sile, združiti človeška bitja in ustvariti občutek skupnosti, ustvariti ta občutek družine, da iz dobrega — dobro že obstaja. Ljubezen je tam. Kako to narediti resnično? Kako naslikaš sliko? Kot bi umetnik uporabljal platno. Kako pripraviti ljudi, da se morda premaknejo iz A v B in dobite C? Ali od ena do dve in dobiš tri? Da si na poti in da moraš biti dosleden in moraš biti vztrajen.</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> In potrpežljiv.</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> In potrpežljiv.</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Prav.</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> In vse je v tem, da si zvest, pošten, odprt.</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Z vsakim dosežkom človeštva in zagotovo z gibanjem za državljanske pravice je tako jasno, da se je zgodilo toliko pomembnih sprememb, dobrih sprememb, vendar pa je še veliko dela, ki ga je treba opraviti. Pojavijo se nepredvideni zapleti, padci, da tudi vse najboljše, kar naredimo, ostane nepopolno in nedokončano. Kako menite o tem in o tem, kje je gibanje glede na vašo vero?</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> No, razmišljam o tem, vendar moraš verjeti, da lahko pride do neuspehov, lahko pride do nekaj razočaranj, lahko pride do prekinitve. Toda spet morate pogledati dolgo in natančno. S tem prepričanjem bo vse v redu; šlo bo. Če se to ne bi zgodilo v vašem življenju, potem morda, ne morda, vendar bi se zgodilo v življenju nekoga. Vendar morate storiti vse, kar lahko, medtem ko zasedate ta prostor v svojem času. In včasih se mi zdi, da ne naredim dovolj, da bi navdihnil drugo generacijo ljudi, da najdejo način, kako se ovirati, delati težave, dobre težave. Samo malo hrupim.</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Mislim, da poosebljaš stvari, ki jih govoriš, in da te gledamo toliko kot slišimo. Premikaš noge <em>[smeh]</em> . Torej, John Lewis, rad bi se ti zelo zahvalil za življenje, ki si ga živel, in za ta pogovor, ki smo ga lahko imeli s tabo to popoldne.</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> No, najlepša hvala. Uživala sem. Hvala.</p><p> [ <em>glasba: “I'm Gonna Live the Life I Sing About” avtor RL Knowles</em> ]</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> John Lewis je umrl v Atlanti v Georgii 17. julija 2020 v starosti 80 let. Bil je demokratski kongresnik iz 5. okrožja Georgie. Bil je avtor več izjemnih knjig, <em>Walking with the Wind: A Memoir of the Movement</em> , <em>Across That Bridge,</em> in serije grafičnih romanov v treh delih, <em>March</em> .</p><p> [ <em>glasba: “I'm Gonna Live the Life I Sing About” avtor RL Knowles</em> ]</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Posebna zahvala ta teden Brendi Jones v pisarni kongresnika Lewisa; Gwen Haynes; Jeremy Burns; Burns Strider; in Liz McClosky, Doug Tanner in vsi drugi veliki ljudje na Inštitutu za vero in politiko.</p><p> [ <em>glasba: “nova glasba” Mavis Staples</em> ]</p><p> Projekt On Being so Chris Heagle, Lily Percy, Laurén Dørdal, Erin Colasacco, Kristin Lin, Eddie Gonzalez, Lilian Vo, Lucas Johnson, Suzette Burley, Zack Rose, Serri Graslie, Colleen Scheck, Christiane Wartell, Julie Siple, Gretchen Honnold in Jhaleh Akhavan</p><p> Projekt On Being se nahaja na ozemlju Dakote. Našo čudovito tematsko glasbo zagotavlja in sestavlja Zoë Keating. In zadnji glas, ki ga slišite peti na koncu naše oddaje, je Cameron Kinghorn.</p><p> <em>On Being</em> je neodvisna produkcija The On Being Project. Javnim radijskim postajam ga distribuira WNYC Studios. To oddajo sem ustvaril pri American Public Media.</p><p> Naši finančni partnerji vključujejo:</p><p> Inštitut Fetzer, ki pomaga graditi duhovne temelje za ljubeč svet. Poiščite jih na fetzer.org.</p><p> Fundacija Kalliopeia. Predan ponovnemu povezovanju ekologije, kulture in duhovnosti. Podpora organizacijam in pobudam, ki podpirajo sveti odnos do življenja na Zemlji. Več o tem na kalliopeia.org.</p><p> Humanity United, ki spodbuja človeško dostojanstvo doma in po svetu. 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A truly great man, and one for us to keep listening to and looking up to.</p> </div> <div class="comment-actions"> <a href="https://www.dailygood.org/story/2678/-p-p-iframe-frameborder-no-height-300-scrolling-no-src-https-w-soundcloud-com-player-url-https-3a-api-soundcloud-com-tracks-304665801-and-color-23ff5500-and-auto-play-false-and-hide-related-false-and-show-comments-true-and-show-user-true-and-am-on-being/?t=showComment&cid=9051#addcomment" class="reply-link" data-cmt-id="9051" data-cmt-author="martina"><i class="bi bi-reply"></i> Reply</a> <span class="btn-light post_btn small"></span> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="comment-item" id="cmt_9048"> <div class="comment-container"> <div class="comment-avatar"> <img src="https://pod.servicespace.org/pics/mem/blank.jpg" alt="User avatar"> </div> <div class="comment-content-wrapper"> <div class="comment-meta"> <span class="comment-author">Kristin Pedemonti</span> <span class="comment-date">Feb 1, 2021</span> <a href="https://www.dailygood.org/story/2678/-p-p-iframe-frameborder-no-height-300-scrolling-no-src-https-w-soundcloud-com-player-url-https-3a-api-soundcloud-com-tracks-304665801-and-color-23ff5500-and-auto-play-false-and-hide-related-false-and-show-comments-true-and-show-user-true-and-am-on-being/?t=showComment&cid=9048" class="ms-auto link-icon text-muted"><i class='fa fa-link'></i></a> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <p>To love like John Lewis did is extraordinary and deeply needed as we continue to march onward, and I can only begin to imagine the deep frustration, sorrow at how very far we've still to go. 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