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Nire emazteari esango nioke eta esango nion: "Borroka bakoitza ez da zure borroka. Erritmatu zaitez". Eta noizbait gazteei eta beste batzuei esango nieke: "Ez zaitez presarik izan. Gure borroka ez da egun batean, aste batean, hilabete batean edo urte batean edo bizitza osoan irauten duen borroka bat. Etengabeko borroka da".</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Beraz, pazientzia, bai, bai.</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> Eta Washingtonen Martxako hitzaldian, erretorika asko izan nuen eta, azkenean, nire arima barruan banekien luzea izango zela eta hori uste dut. Baina ez duzu mundua, gizartea, aldatzen egun gutxitan, eta hobe da. Hobe da argi pilotua izatea petardoa izatea baino <em>[barreak]</em> .</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Ongi.</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> Argi pilotua bazara, inguruan egongo zarelako. Petardo bat datorren zure baitan, joan besterik ez. Une batean hemen zaude eta hurrengoan joan zara.</p><p> [ <em>musika: James Horner & Sweet Honey in the Rock-en “Po' Pilgrim of Sorrow”</em> ]</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Ni Krista Tippett naiz eta hau <em>On Being</em> da. Gaur joan den astean hil zen John Lewis kongresista eta eskubide zibilen kondaira gogoan. 2013an Montgomery-n, Alabaman, berarekin hitz egiteko ohore handia izan nuen, urte askotan zuzendu zuen Kongresuko eskubide zibilen aldeko erromesaldi baten barruan.</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Entzuten al nauzu? Hemen tentsio sortzailea den arren, ibiltzen ari zaren lerroa da.</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> Bai.</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Eta badirudi mugimenduaren historia irakurtzen dudanean, zu eta beste batzuk marra horretatik aurrera eta atzera ibiltzen direla denbora guztian. Baina horixe zen, zuk diozun bezala, erritmoa mantentzea, nolabait beti atzera egin eta luzera ikusteko gai izatea, uste dut. Jarrera hori da, jarrera hori da.</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> Baina orain diskriminazioa amaitu nahi genuen. Jendeak orain izena eman eta botoa eman ahal izatea nahi genuen. Eta "Freedom Now" izeneko leloa genuen. Baina efektu iraultzaile moduko bat emateko, askoz gehiago beharko zen jendearen adimenak, bihotzak eta arima aldatzeko gai zarenean.</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Nola isurtzen dira esperientzia horiek, ikasi dituzun balore horiek gure garaiko politikagintzan?</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> Beno, gaur egun askoz pertsona hobea naizela eta askoz ere gizaki hobea naizela uste dut. Noizbait Ganberako lurrean eserita nagoenean edo batzordeko bilera batean, noizbait esateko gogoa daukat, badakizu, behin baino gehiagotan pasatu nintzen bide horretatik. Badakizu, Nashville-n edo Georgian protesta batean edo agian askatasun-ibilaldian itzuliko banintz, zer egingo genuke? Zer esango luke Martin Luther King Jr.-ek? Zer egingo luke Gandhik? Beraz, ezin duzu uko egin oinarrizko printzipio eta oinarrizko irakaspen batzuei.</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Ez dut uste inork oraintxe bertan Kongresuari komunitate maitatua izatea leporatuko dionik.</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> Beno, uste dut urrun gaudela komunitate maitea izatetik, baina ez diot Kongresuari amore emango. Eta nire itxaropena da, Kongresuko kideak bidaietan, bidaian eta erromerian etortzen direnean, zerbait ikastea, hazi egingo dela eta kide hobeak eta gizaki hobeak bihurtuko direla.</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Badakizu, barneratu zinen indarkeriarik gabeko tradizio honen alderdi erradikal batzuk, orain zure bizitzara ekartzen dituzun kongresukide gisa, hona hemen zure liburuan irakurri dudan zerbait, Birminghameko elizako lau neskatila hil zituzten sute-bonbardaketaren ondoren, asteburu honetan zurekin egoteko pribilegioa izan nuen, King Reverendoak esan zuen: "Altzairu gogorra bezain gogorra da bizitza. ordu honetako iluntasuna, ez dugu gure anaia zuriengan fedea galdu behar”. Badakizu, zure buruan edo zure mugimenduan fedea izateaz gain, zure etsaiengan fedea izatearen ideia oso zorrotza.</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> Sinetsi behar duzu eta ezin diozu inoiz, inoiz, inolako aukerari uko egin. Horren parte da, esan bezala, hasieratik. Dagoeneko egina dago. Erreala bihurtzeko modu bat aurkitu besterik ez duzu egin behar.</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Gogoan dut ikasle izateaz eta filosofiaren eta teologiaren mundura hurbiltzeaz idazten zenuela eta dialektikaren nozioari buruz irakurtzen zenuela eta segregazioa tesi gisa eta desegregazioaren aurkako borroka antitesi gisa eta integrazioa sintesi gisa, amaiera gisa pentsatzen zenuela. Galdetzen dut nola ikusten duzun hori orain, zeren eta dialektika berriro hasten da eta zer...</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> Beno, ez dut uste beharrezkoa denik berriro hastea. Baina irakasle zoragarri bat izan nuen American Baptist College-n nengoela. John Lewis Powell zuen izena, eta tesiaren eta antitesiaren eta sintesiaren ideia hori eztabaidatzen hasten zen, eta arbelaren inguruan korri egiten zuen idazten eta saltoka.</p><p> Horixe izan da borroka, lehian dauden indar horiek elkartzea, gizakiak elkartu eta komunitate sentimendua sortzea, familia zentzu hori sortzea, onetik hori —ona dagoeneko hor dago—. Maitasuna hor dago. Nola egiten duzu benetakoa? Nola margotzen duzu koadroa? Mihise bat erabiltzen duen artista bat bezala da. Nola lortzen duzu jendea agian A-tik B-ra pasatzea eta C lortzen duzu? Edo batetik bitara eta hiru lortu? Bide batean zaudela eta koherentea izan behar duzula eta iraunkorra izan behar duzula.</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Eta pazientzia.</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> Eta pazientzia.</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Ongi.</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> Eta dena da leial izatea, zintzoa izatea, irekia izatea.</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Hain argi dago gizateriaren lorpen guztiekin eta, zalantzarik gabe, eskubide zibilen mugimenduarekin, hainbeste aldaketa garrantzitsua, aldaketa ona, gertatu zela eta, hala ere, askoz ere lan gehiago dagoela egiteko. Ezusteko konplikazioak agertzen dira, atzerapausoak agertzen dira, egiten ditugun gauza onenak ere inperfektu eta osatugabe geratzen direla. Nola pentsatzen duzu horretaz eta mugimendua non dagoen zure fedearen arabera?</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> Beno, pentsatzen dut, baina uste izan behar duzu atzerapausoak egon daitezkeela, desilusio batzuk egon daitezkeela, etenaldiren bat egon daitekeela. Baina, berriro ere, begirada luze eta gogorra hartu behar duzu. Sinesmen honekin, ondo egongo da; aterako da. Zure bizitzan zehar gertatuko ez balitz, agian, agian ez, baina norbaiten bizitzan gertatuko litzateke. Baina egin dezakezun guztia egin behar duzu zure denboran espazio hau okupatzen duzun bitartean. Eta batzuetan sentitzen dut ez dudala nahikoa egiten beste belaunaldi bat pertsona bat eragozteko modua aurkitzeko, arazoak sortzeko, arazo onak sortzeko. Zarata txiki bat besterik ez dut egiten.</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Uste dut hitz egiten dituzun gauzak gorpuzten dituzula eta entzuten zaitugula bezainbeste ikusten zaitugula. Oinak mugitzen dituzu <em>[barreak]</em> . Beraz, John Lewis, asko eskertu nahi dizut bizi izan duzun bizitzagatik eta gaur arratsaldean zurekin izan dugun elkarrizketagatik.</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> Beno, eskerrik asko. Gozatu nuen. Eskerrik asko.</p><p> [ <em>musika: "I'm Gonna Live the Life I Sing About" RL Knowles-en eskutik</em> ]</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> John Lewis Atlantan (Georgia) hil zen 2020ko uztailaren 17an, 80 urte zituela. Georgiako 5. barrutiko kongresukide demokrata zen. Hainbat liburu ikaragarriren egilea izan zen, <em>Walking with the Wind: A Memoir of the Movement</em> , <em>Across That Bridge,</em> eta hiru zatiko eleberri grafiko-sail baten egilea, <em>March</em> .</p><p> [ <em>musika: "I'm Gonna Live the Life I Sing About" RL Knowles-en eskutik</em> ]</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Esker bereziak aste honetan Brenda Jonesi Lewis kongresukidearen bulegoan; Gwen Haynes; Jeremy Burns; Burns Strider; eta Liz McClosky, Doug Tanner eta Fede eta Politika Institutuko beste pertsona handi guztiak.</p><p> [ <em>musika: Mavis Staples-en “musika berria”</em> ]</p><p> The On Being Project Chris Heagle, Lily Percy, Laurén Dørdal, Erin Colasacco, Kristin Lin, Eddie Gonzalez, Lilian Vo, Lucas Johnson, Suzette Burley, Zack Rose, Serri Graslie, Colleen Scheck, Christiane Wartell, Julie Siple, Gretchen Honnold eta Jhaleh Akhavan dira.</p><p> On Being Project Dakota lurretan dago. Gure gai-musika ederra Zoë Keating-ek eman eta konposatu du. Eta gure ikuskizunaren amaieran abesten entzuten duzun azken ahotsa Cameron Kinghorn da.</p><p> <em>On Being</em> The On Being Project-en ekoizpen independentea da. WNYC Studios-ek irrati publikoetara banatzen du. Ikuskizun hau American Public Median sortu nuen.</p><p> Gure finantza-bazkideek honako hauek dira:</p><p> Fetzer Institutua, mundu maitagarri baten oinarri espirituala eraikitzen laguntzen. Aurkitu itzazu fetzer.org webgunean.</p><p> Kalliopeia Fundazioa. Ekologia, kultura eta espiritualtasuna berriro lotzeari eskainia. Lurreko bizitzarekin harreman sakratua mantentzen duten erakunde eta ekimenak laguntzea. Informazio gehiago kalliopeia.org helbidean.</p><p> Humanity United, giza duintasuna aurreratuz etxean eta mundu osoan. 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A truly great man, and one for us to keep listening to and looking up to.</p> </div> <div class="comment-actions"> <a href="https://www.dailygood.org/story/2678/-p-p-iframe-frameborder-no-height-300-scrolling-no-src-https-w-soundcloud-com-player-url-https-3a-api-soundcloud-com-tracks-304665801-and-color-23ff5500-and-auto-play-false-and-hide-related-false-and-show-comments-true-and-show-user-true-and-am-on-being/?t=showComment&cid=9051#addcomment" class="reply-link" data-cmt-id="9051" data-cmt-author="martina"><i class="bi bi-reply"></i> Reply</a> <span class="btn-light post_btn small"></span> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="comment-item" id="cmt_9048"> <div class="comment-container"> <div class="comment-avatar"> <img src="https://pod.servicespace.org/pics/mem/blank.jpg" alt="User avatar"> </div> <div class="comment-content-wrapper"> <div class="comment-meta"> <span class="comment-author">Kristin Pedemonti</span> <span class="comment-date">Feb 1, 2021</span> <a href="https://www.dailygood.org/story/2678/-p-p-iframe-frameborder-no-height-300-scrolling-no-src-https-w-soundcloud-com-player-url-https-3a-api-soundcloud-com-tracks-304665801-and-color-23ff5500-and-auto-play-false-and-hide-related-false-and-show-comments-true-and-show-user-true-and-am-on-being/?t=showComment&cid=9048" class="ms-auto link-icon text-muted"><i class='fa fa-link'></i></a> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <p>To love like John Lewis did is extraordinary and deeply needed as we continue to march onward, and I can only begin to imagine the deep frustration, sorrow at how very far we've still to go. 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