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Jeg ville fortælle det til min kone og sige: "Hver kamp er ikke din kamp. Sæt tempo i dig selv." Og jeg ville sige det til de unge mennesker og andre engang: "Du skal ikke have travlt. Vores kamp er ikke en kamp, der varer en dag, en uge, en måned eller et år eller et helt liv. Det er en vedvarende kamp."</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Så, tålmodighed – ja, ja.</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> Og i talen fra marts i Washington havde jeg en masse retorik, og til sidst vidste jeg i min egen sjæl, at det ville blive et langt sejt, og det tror jeg på. Men du ændrer ikke verden, samfundet på få dage, og det er bedre. Det er bedre at være pilot end at være en fyrværker <em>[griner]</em> .</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Rigtigt.</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> Fordi hvis du er pilot, vil du være i nærheden. Et fyrværkeri kommer ind i dig, bare gå af. Du er her det ene øjeblik og du er væk i det næste øjeblik.</p><p> [ <em>musik: "Po' Pilgrim of Sorrow" af James Horner & Sweet Honey in the Rock</em> ]</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Jeg er Krista Tippett, og det her er <em>On Being</em> . I dag mindes kongresmedlem og borgerrettighedslegende John Lewis, der døde i sidste uge. Jeg havde den store ære at tale med ham i Montgomery, Alabama i 2013 - som en del af en tværpolitisk kongres-borgerrettighedspilgrimsrejse, som han ledede i mange år.</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Hører du mig? Selvom det er en kreativ spænding her, er det en linje, du går.</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> Ja.</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Og det lyder som om, når jeg læser bevægelsens historie, så går du og andre frem og tilbage over den linje hele tiden. Men det var, som du siger, det at holde tempoet, det på en eller anden måde altid at kunne trække sig tilbage og se det lange træk, formoder jeg. Det er den holdning, det er den holdning.</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> Men vi ønskede at stoppe diskrimination nu. Vi ønskede, at folk kunne registrere sig og stemme nu. Og vi havde et slogan kaldet "Frihed nu." Men at give en slags revolutionær effekt, ville det tage meget længere tid, når du er i stand til at ændre folks sind og hjerter og sjæle.</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Hvordan flyder de oplevelser, de værdier, som du har lært, ind i dit liv i politik i vores tid?</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> Nå, jeg synes i dag, at jeg er et meget bedre menneske og et meget bedre menneske. Engang, når jeg sidder på gulvet i Parlamentet eller til et udvalgsmøde, har jeg lyst til engang at sige, du ved, jeg har gået denne vej en gang før. Du ved, hvis jeg var tilbage i Nashville eller i Georgia på en protest eller måske på frituren, hvad ville vi så gøre? Hvad ville Martin Luther King Jr. sige? Hvad ville Gandhi gøre? Så du kan ikke opgive visse grundlæggende principper og grundlæggende lære.</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Jeg tror ikke, nogen ville beskylde kongressen lige nu for at være et elsket samfund.</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> Nå, jeg tror, vi har et stykke vej fra at blive det elskede samfund, men jeg vil ikke give op på Kongressen. Og det er mit håb, at når medlemmer af Kongressen kommer på ture og rejse og pilgrimsfærd, at de vil lære noget, at det vil vokse og blive bedre medlemmer og bedre mennesker.</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Du ved, nogle af de radikale aspekter af denne ikke-voldstradition, som du var gennemsyret af, som du nu bringer til dit liv som kongresmedlem - her er noget, jeg læste i din bog, at efter brandbombningen af Birmingham-kirken, hvor fire små piger blev dræbt, hvor jeg havde det privilegium at være sammen med dig denne weekend, sagde pastor King: "Til tider, så hårdt, som hårdt er livet i stål. denne time må vi ikke miste troen på vores hvide brødre." Du ved, den meget krævende forestilling om ikke blot at have tro på dig selv eller tro på din bevægelse, men tro på dine fjender.</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> Du skal tro, og du kan aldrig nogensinde give op på nogen mulighed. Det er som sagt en del af det fra begyndelsen. Det er allerede gjort. Du skal bare finde en måde at gøre det virkeligt.</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Jeg kan huske, når du skriver om at være studerende og blive udsat for filosofiens og teologiens verden og læser om forestillingen om dialektikken og tænker på segregation som tese og kampen mod desegregation som antitesen og integrationen som syntesen, slutningen. Jeg spekulerer på, hvordan du ser det nu, for begynder dialektikken forfra, og hvad …</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> Nå, jeg tror ikke, det er nødvendigt at starte forfra. Men jeg havde en vidunderlig lærer, da jeg gik på American Baptist College. Han hed John Lewis Powell, og han begyndte at diskutere denne idé om afhandlingen og antitesen og syntesen, og han løb rundt på tavlen og skrev og hoppede.</p><p> Det er det, kampen har handlet om, at bringe disse konkurrerende kræfter sammen, bringe mennesker sammen og skabe en følelse af fællesskab, at skabe denne følelse af familie, at ud af det gode - det gode er der allerede. Kærligheden er der. Hvordan gør du det virkeligt? Hvordan maler du billedet? Det er ligesom en kunstner, der bruger et lærred. Hvordan får du folk til at flytte fra måske A til B, og du får C? Eller fra en til to og få tre? At du er på vej, og du skal være konsekvent, og du skal være vedholdende.</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Og tålmodig.</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> Og tålmodig.</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Rigtigt.</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> Og det handler om at være trofast, være ærlig, være åben.</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Det er så tydeligt med enhver præstation af menneskeheden og bestemt med borgerrettighedsbevægelsen, at der skete så megen vigtig forandring, god forandring, og alligevel er der meget mere arbejde at gøre. Uforudsete komplikationer dukker op, tilbageslag dukker op, at selv alle de bedste ting, vi gør, forbliver ufuldkomne og ufuldstændige. Hvordan tænker du om det og om, hvor bevægelsen er i forhold til din tro?</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> Nå, jeg tænker over det, men du skal tro på, at der kan være tilbageslag, der kan være nogle skuffelser, der kan være nogle afbrydelser. Men igen, du skal tage det lange, hårde kig. Med denne tro vil det være OK; det skal nok gå. Hvis det ikke skete i løbet af dit liv, så måske, ikke måske, men det ville ske i nogens levetid. Men du skal gøre alt, hvad du kan gøre, mens du besætter denne plads i din tid. Og nogle gange føler jeg, at jeg ikke gør nok for at prøve at inspirere en anden generation af mennesker til at finde en måde at komme i vejen, lave ballade, gode ballade. Jeg larmer bare lidt.</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Jeg tror, du legemliggør de ting, du taler, og at vi ser dig lige så meget som hører dig. Du bevæger dine fødder <em>[griner]</em> . Så, John Lewis, jeg vil gerne takke dig så meget for det liv, du har levet, og for denne samtale, vi har kunnet have med dig i eftermiddag.</p><p> <b>Lewis:</b> Nå, mange tak. Jeg nød det. Tak.</p><p> [ <em>musik: "I'm Gonna Live the Life I Sing About" af RL Knowles</em> ]</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> John Lewis døde i Atlanta, Georgia den 17. juli 2020, i en alder af 80. Han var en demokratisk kongresmedlem fra Georgias 5. distrikt. Han var forfatter til flere enorme bøger, <em>Walking with the Wind: A Memoir of the Movement</em> , <em>Across That Bridge,</em> og en tredelt grafisk romanserie, <em>March</em> .</p><p> [ <em>musik: "I'm Gonna Live the Life I Sing About" af RL Knowles</em> ]</p><p> <b>Tippett:</b> Særlig tak i denne uge til Brenda Jones på kongresmedlem Lewis' kontor; Gwen Haynes; Jeremy Burns; Burns Strider; og Liz McClosky, Doug Tanner og alle de andre fantastiske mennesker på Faith and Politics Institute.</p><p> [ <em>musik: "ny musik" af Mavis Staples</em> ]</p><p> The On Being Project er Chris Heagle, Lily Percy, Laurén Dørdal, Erin Colasacco, Kristin Lin, Eddie Gonzalez, Lilian Vo, Lucas Johnson, Suzette Burley, Zack Rose, Serri Graslie, Colleen Scheck, Christiane Wartell, Julie Siple, Gretchen Honnold og Jhaleh Akhavan</p><p> On Being Project er placeret på Dakota-land. Vores dejlige temamusik er leveret og komponeret af Zoë Keating. Og den sidste stemme, du hører synge i slutningen af vores show, er Cameron Kinghorn.</p><p> <em>On Being</em> er en selvstændig produktion af The On Being Project. Den distribueres til offentlige radiostationer af WNYC Studios. Jeg lavede dette show på American Public Media.</p><p> Vores finansieringspartnere omfatter:</p><p> Fetzer Instituttet, der hjælper med at bygge det åndelige grundlag for en kærlig verden. Find dem på fetzer.org.</p><p> Kalliopeia Fonden. Dedikeret til at genskabe forbindelsen mellem økologi, kultur og spiritualitet. Støtte organisationer og initiativer, der opretholder et helligt forhold til livet på Jorden. Lær mere på kalliopeia.org.</p><p> Humanity United, fremmer menneskelig værdighed i hjemmet og rundt om i verden. 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A truly great man, and one for us to keep listening to and looking up to.</p> </div> <div class="comment-actions"> <a href="https://www.dailygood.org/story/2678/-p-p-iframe-frameborder-no-height-300-scrolling-no-src-https-w-soundcloud-com-player-url-https-3a-api-soundcloud-com-tracks-304665801-and-color-23ff5500-and-auto-play-false-and-hide-related-false-and-show-comments-true-and-show-user-true-and-am-on-being/?t=showComment&cid=9051#addcomment" class="reply-link" data-cmt-id="9051" data-cmt-author="martina"><i class="bi bi-reply"></i> Reply</a> <span class="btn-light post_btn small"></span> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="comment-item" id="cmt_9048"> <div class="comment-container"> <div class="comment-avatar"> <img src="https://pod.servicespace.org/pics/mem/blank.jpg" alt="User avatar"> </div> <div class="comment-content-wrapper"> <div class="comment-meta"> <span class="comment-author">Kristin Pedemonti</span> <span class="comment-date">Feb 1, 2021</span> <a href="https://www.dailygood.org/story/2678/-p-p-iframe-frameborder-no-height-300-scrolling-no-src-https-w-soundcloud-com-player-url-https-3a-api-soundcloud-com-tracks-304665801-and-color-23ff5500-and-auto-play-false-and-hide-related-false-and-show-comments-true-and-show-user-true-and-am-on-being/?t=showComment&cid=9048" class="ms-auto link-icon text-muted"><i class='fa fa-link'></i></a> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <p>To love like John Lewis did is extraordinary and deeply needed as we continue to march onward, and I can only begin to imagine the deep frustration, sorrow at how very far we've still to go. 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