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Ifuatayo Ni Sauti Na Nakala Ya Mahojiano Ya onbeing.org Kati Ya Krista Tippett Na Ellen Langer.
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Na haya mawili hayatofautiani hata kidogo.</p><p> MS. TIPPETT: Sawa.</p><p> DR. LANGER: Mtu anaweza kufanya yote mawili.</p><p> MS. TIPPETT: Ndio.</p><p> DR. LANGER: Lakini kama ningezingatia kutafakari dhidi ya umakini huu wa moja kwa moja ninapoisoma, ningesema kwamba kwa wale watu wanaofikiri, na baadhi ya watu hufanya hivyo, kwamba isipokuwa wafanye jambo kali, hali zao za maisha hazitabadilika. Kweli, kwa hivyo, ikiwa mtu anaishi Magharibi, mara nyingi ni kuchukua mazoezi kama kutafakari au yoga. Unajua, unabadilisha maisha yako kwa njia kubwa, halafu una imani - ambayo ina sehemu yake ya placebo lakini ni nzuri sana - kusababisha kila aina ya mabadiliko mengine makubwa katika maisha yako. Kwa watu wengine, bila akili na kwa upande mwingine, labda, kwamba wanaogopa juu ya mambo ambayo ni ya kigeni sana. Na hivyo wazo hili zima la kufanya kile watawa hawa hufanya, halijisikii sawa. Nadhani mtu anapaswa kufanya yote mawili, lakini ni vizuri kwamba tuna watu wengi sasa kutoka kwa njia mbili tofauti. Nilikuwa naenda kusema kambi, lakini basi hiyo inasikika kama aina ya vita, ambayo sivyo.</p><p> MS. TIPPETT: [ <em>anacheka</em> ] Ndio.</p><p> DR. LANGER: Kufanya hivi ili kusajili watu zaidi na zaidi katika njia hii ya kuwa.</p><p> MS. TIPPETT: Unajua, hili ni jambo kutoka, naamini kutoka kwa kitabu chako <em>Mindfulness</em> - ulizungumza kuhusu kufanya sabato katika Shule ya Biashara ya Harvard. Na kwamba wanafunzi, au kitivo hapo, kilikusaidia kwa namna fulani kusambaza yako - jinsi unavyotumia hii kwa biashara katika sentensi mbili. Mimi tu - nilidhani walikuwa msaada kweli. “Kutokuwa na akili ni matumizi ya suluhu za biashara za jana kwa matatizo ya leo. Kuzingatia—”</p><p> DR. LANGER: Ndio, hapana, hawakuja na hilo.</p><p> MS. TIPPETT: Oh, hawakufanya.</p><p> DR. LANGER: Hapana [ <em>anacheka</em> ].</p><p> MS. TIPPETT: Lakini walikusaidia kuunda sentensi hizi, sivyo? Au umesema...</p><p> DR. LANGER: Sawa, ndiyo.</p><p> MS. TIPPETT: ...umezitunga hapo kwa muktadha huo. "Na kuzingatia ni kukubaliana na mahitaji ya leo ili kuepuka matatizo ya kesho."</p><p> DR. LANGER: Ndio. Je, nilisema hivyo? Ndiyo, hapana, nilifanya. Na, ndio nina uhakika kwamba kutumia muhula huko, nilikuwa nikifundisha kozi kwa kitivo chao cha chini, na ilikuwa ya kufurahisha kwa sababu wanashughulikia shida kwa njia tofauti. Na, tatizo, tena, kama ulivyosema, kwamba biashara kwa kawaida hutumia suluhu za jana kwa matatizo ya leo. Na nadhani katika utafutaji huu wa suluhu, wao - katika utafutaji huu usio na akili, huwa wanakosa kile ambacho mara nyingi kiko mbele yao.</p><p> Ninapotoa mazungumzo katika biashara, na ninajaribu kuwafanya watu kwanza wathamini jinsi walivyo wasio na akili, ninachofanya ni kuwapa mifano mingi. Kwa mfano, hata jambo rahisi kama - naweza kuuliza, "Moja na moja ni kiasi gani?" Na ninajua kuna watu ambao wanasikiliza hili ambao wanajiambia wenyewe, "Ee, Mungu! Je! itatubidi tusikilize saa nzima ya jambo hili, unajua, tukifikiria hivyo?" Vyovyote vile, na hivyo basi wanasema kwa lazima "mbili," kisha ninawajulisha kwamba, hapana, moja na moja wakati mwingine ni mbili. Si mara zote mbili. Na ninawapa mifano tofauti. Rahisi kuelewa ni ikiwa unachukua kitanzi kimoja cha gum ya kutafuna na ukiongeza kwenye kijiko kimoja cha gum ya kutafuna ...</p><p> MS. TIPPETT: Sawa.</p><p> DR. LANGER: ... unapata moja.</p><p> MS. TIPPETT: Sawa.</p><p> DR. LANGER: Na ndivyo ilivyo kwa kila moja ya mambo. Kwa hivyo nadhani una imani, halafu unatafuta uthibitisho kwa ajili yake. Na kwa hivyo njia ya kukumbuka zaidi itakuwa kuuliza swali kwa njia zote mbili. Inakuwaje kwa njia hii, na haikoje hivi? Tunazungumza mengi juu ya mafadhaiko wakati - katika maabara yangu, na kisha katika muktadha wa biashara - kwamba kwa mtu yeyote, kunapokuwa na dhiki, kuna dhana kwamba wanafanya kwamba kitu kitatokea - nambari moja - na kwamba inapotokea, itakuwa mbaya.</p><p> MS. TIPPETT: Ndio.</p><p> DR. LANGER: Wote hao hawana akili. Unataka kuifungua, kwa njia zote mbili. Kwanza, imani kwamba itatokea. Unachohitaji kufanya ni kujiuliza kwa ushahidi kwamba haitatokea. Na kila wakati unapata ushahidi kwa chochote unachojiuliza.</p><p> MS. TIPPETT: Sawa.</p><p> DR. LANGER: Kwa hivyo ikiwa unayo, unajua - nitafukuzwa kazi.</p><p> MS. TIPPETT: Ndiyo.</p><p> DR. LANGER: Labda itatokea, labda haitatokea, na itakapotokea, itakuwa na sehemu nzuri na mbaya. Na ni rahisi zaidi kwenda mbele basi. Nina mjengo mmoja na hiyo, unajua.</p><p> MS. TIPPETT: Ndio, endelea.</p><p> DR. LANGER: "Usijali kabla ya wakati wake."</p><p> MS. TIPPETT: Haki [ <em>anacheka</em> ] ndio. Nakumbuka Eckhart Tolle akisema kwamba msongo wa mawazo ni kutotaka chochote kinachotokea kutendeka. Hiyo ndiyo stress. Ambayo ni njia nyingine ya kuelezea kile unachozungumza.</p><p> DR. LANGER: Ndio. Inavutia. Nadhani sio zaidi juu ya kile kinachotokea, lakini ni juu ya dhana ya kitu kitakachotokea. Ninachosema ni kwamba nadhani mkazo unafuata kutokana na imani kwamba tukio hili la wakati ujao litatokea. Unapokuwa katikati ya tukio, unashughulikia kwa njia moja au nyingine.</p><p> MS. TIPPETT: Sawa.</p><p> DR. LANGER: Lakini, ndio, nadhani inarudi kwa maana fulani kwa Epictetus, ambaye alisema, si kwa Kiingereza, na si kwa lafudhi yangu, lakini kwamba "Matukio hayasababishi mfadhaiko. Kinachosababisha mfadhaiko ni maoni yako ya matukio."</p><p> MS. TIPPETT: Ndio.</p><p> DR. LANGER: Mara tu watu watakapoweza kufahamu - tazama, hivi sasa, karibu kila mtu anasukumwa bila akili na hakika hizi na sehemu ya hakika hizi ni tathmini hizi za nzuri au mbaya. Ikiwa ni nzuri, ninahisi lazima niwe nayo. Ikiwa ni mbaya, lazima niepuke. Wakati sio nzuri au mbaya, naweza kukaa tu. Na iwe tu.</p><p> MS. TIPPETT: Hmm.</p><p> DR. LANGER: Kwa hivyo tunapata udhibiti mwingi zaidi kwa kutambua jinsi tunavyodhibiti maisha yetu ya sasa na yajayo.</p><p> [ <em>Muziki: “Ganges Anthem” na Chris Beaty</em> ]</p><p> MS. TIPPETT: Mimi ni Krista Tippett na hii ni <em>On Being</em> . Leo pamoja na mwanasaikolojia wa kijamii Ellen Langer, ambaye wengine wamemwita “mama wa uangalifu.” Alikuwa mwanzilishi katika sayansi ya kufichua manufaa ya maisha ya mara moja ya kuzingatia - ambayo anaelezea kama "kitendo rahisi cha kutambua mambo kikamilifu" - iliyopatikana bila kutafakari.</p><p> [ <em>Muziki: “Ganges Anthem” na Chris Beaty</em> ]</p><p> MS. TIPPETT: Unaandika kwa njia ya kuvutia kuhusu wakati na jinsi mtazamo wetu wa wakati wenyewe unavyohusika katika hili.</p><p> DR. LANGER: Ndio. Naam, ili tu kusisitiza hili, kwamba imani yangu ni kwamba imani zetu si zisizo na maana. Sio kwamba wanajalisha kidogo. Kwamba wao ni karibu kitu pekee ambacho kinajalisha. Ni kauli kali sana. SAWA. Kwa hivyo, kwamba ikiwa ungesema, ni nini muhimu, wakati halisi au unaotambuliwa? Kwangu, ingekuwa alijua wakati.</p><p> MS. TIPPETT: Sawa.</p><p> DR. LANGER: Kwa hivyo, tuseme tuna wewe kwenye masomo, unaenda kulala, unaamka na unaona saa. Na saa, kwa nusu ya watu, inakimbia mara mbili ya kawaida - si kwa nusu ya watu, kwa theluthi moja ya watu. Kwa nusu, saa imepungua. Kwa theluthi ya mwisho, ni sahihi. Kwa hiyo, maana yake ni kwamba wanapoamka, theluthi moja ya watu watafikiri wamelala, tuseme, saa mbili zaidi za kulala kuliko walizopata, saa mbili za kulala kidogo kuliko walizopata, ao muda wa kulala ambao kwa kweli walipata. Na swali ni je, unapopewa kazi za kisaikolojia za kibaolojia na utambuzi, je, kazi hizi huakisi wakati halisi au unaotambulika? Na, kwa uwazi, ninaamini kwamba, unajua, unapoamka asubuhi, na unafikiri kwamba ulikuwa na usingizi mzuri wa usiku, uko tayari kwenda, bila kujali ni kiasi gani cha usingizi uliokuwa nao. Unajua, hadi hatua, bila shaka.</p><p> MS. TIPPETT: Nadhani hiyo ni, unajua, kwa njia fulani mtazamo wetu wa wakati, haswa, katika wakati huu ambapo kasi ya mabadiliko ya kiteknolojia inaonekana kuwa ya haraka sana.</p><p> DR. LANGER: Ndio.</p><p> MS. TIPPETT: Inaleta mkazo mwingi, iwe ni jinsi tunavyofikiria kuhusu kufanya kazi nyingi, au kuahirisha mambo, sivyo? Mambo haya yote yanahusika...</p><p> DR. LANGER: Sawa. Sawa.</p><p> MS. TIPPETT: ...na uhusiano wetu na wakati na tarehe za mwisho.</p><p> DR. LANGER: Ndio, nadhani moja ya mambo ambayo tunaweza kufanya, tunapokuwa na wasiwasi sana juu ya kile kitakachotokea katika siku zijazo, ni kufikiria juu ya nyakati zote tulizokuwa na wasiwasi huko nyuma na jambo hilo halikufanyika.</p><p> MS. TIPPETT: [ <em>anacheka</em> ] Sawa. Sawa, kwa hivyo ningependa - nataka kukuuliza, ulisema nini dakika moja iliyopita? Kwamba jinsi unavyofanya hivi, uangalifu huu wa moja kwa moja, sawa? Hivi ndivyo unavyosoma. Hivi ndivyo unavyohubiri kwa njia yako. Na kwa hivyo tuchukue tu ni matumizi gani haya ya kuzingatia moja kwa moja, na mambo haya yote unayojifunza, yanaonekana kama, unajua, katika siku moja maishani?</p><p> DR. LANGER: Nadhani kinachotokea ni kwamba siogopi mambo mengi huko nje, kwa sababu nitaweza kushughulikia. Sitaacha leo kuhangaikia kesho. Na hiyo - sijui wanataka kuingia katika mabishano na wachumi, ambayo mimi naweza, kuhusu, unajua, kuweka fedha mbali kwa ajili ya siku zijazo, na kadhalika. Ni - hii ni katika kiwango tofauti cha uchambuzi.</p><p> MS. TIPPETT: Sawa.</p><p> DR. LANGER: Lakini kiasi hicho cha wasiwasi, karibu wasiwasi wote tunaojihusisha nao ni kuhusu kitu kuhusu kesho, wakati hatuwezi kutabiri kesho itakuwaje.</p><p> MS. TIPPETT: Lakini unasema na kuandika tena na tena kwamba hii ni rahisi.</p><p> DR. LANGER: Ndiyo, sawa. Hivyo…</p><p> MS. TIPPETT: Lakini haionekani kuwa rahisi. Kweli? Na ni kitu - inakuwa rahisi kwa wakati? Je, ni...</p><p> DR. LANGER: Ndio.</p><p> MS. TIPPETT: ...jambo ambalo umejifunza?</p><p> DR. LANGER: Ndio. Na, nadhani si rahisi - ambapo unafanya hivi kwa dakika tano na kisha, unajua, kwa heshima na aina moja ya maudhui, na kisha maisha yako yote yatabadilika, ingawa hiyo inaweza kutokea. Lakini mazoezi, nilikuambia, nenda tu nyumbani, au mpigie mtu simu, ama tunaposimama sasa, nenda ukamwone mtu fulani katika chumba kinachofuata, na uone mambo mapya kuwahusu.</p><p> MS. TIPPETT: Mm-hmm.</p><p> DR. LANGER: Na mtu huyu ambaye ulifikiri unajua, unajua, atahisi tofauti. Na mtu huyo atakujibu tofauti. Na hii hutokea mara moja.</p><p> MS. TIPPETT: Mm-hmm.</p><p> DR. LANGER: Kwamba ikiwa unafanya jambo ambalo ni gumu, na ukajiambia, "Nina wasiwasi gani? Ni mambo gani chanya yanayoweza kutokea kwa kutokamilisha hili?" Au, “Ninawezaje kufanya hili kuwa mchezo?” "Kwa nini nadhani maisha yangu yanategemea chochote kile?" Kwa sababu ni mara chache sana maisha yetu hutegemea hatua fulani fulani. Je! unajua ninachosema?</p><p> MS. TIPPETT: Ndio.</p><p> DR. LANGER: Mara tu hayo - watu wanaishi maisha ambayo yanaendelea, lakini ichukulie kana kwamba chochote kinachotokea kwa sasa ni fursa ya mwisho watapata.</p><p> MS. TIPPETT: Sawa. Kwa hivyo, unajua, inashangaza sana kwamba Jumuiya ya Kisaikolojia ya Marekani imesema kuhusu kazi yako kwamba imetoa tumaini jipya kwa mamilioni ambao matatizo yao yalionekana hapo awali kuwa yasiyoweza kubadilika na kuepukika. Tiba ya mapenzi, miaka 20 kutoka sasa, au miaka 100 kutoka sasa, itafanana kabisa na iliyokuwa katika filamu za Woody Allen [ <em>anacheka</em> ] ambayo inasalia kuwa aina ya mila potofu ya matibabu ambayo ni miongo kadhaa iliyopita.</p><p> DR. LANGER: Nadhani labda sivyo. Nadhani tayari inabadilika. Nadhani miaka mingi iliyopita, nilikuwa nimesema kwamba tiba inapaswa kugawanywa katika sehemu mbili. Na kwa hivyo, tuna watu ambao wanaweza kukuambia, kwa njia ya kisasa kwamba "Ninajua jinsi unavyohisi. Na utakuwa sawa." Lakini sio watu wale wale ambao wanaweza kukuambia jinsi ya kuendelea nayo, na nini cha kufanya ili kuwa na furaha.</p><p> MS. TIPPETT: Sawa.</p><p> DR. LANGER: Kwa hivyo wanaweza kukufanya usiwe na furaha hadi kutoegemea upande wowote kwa maana fulani.</p><p> MS. TIPPETT: [ <em>anacheka</em> ] Sawa.</p><p> DR. LANGER: Kwa hivyo, kinachotokea sasa tuna nidhamu mpya ya makocha. Na hapo ndipo wanapaa. Na kwa hivyo, unajua, niko - watu wengi ambao wanaona makocha wangekuwa watu ambao wangekuwa katika matibabu hapo awali.</p><p> MS. TIPPETT: Sawa. Sawa. Hiyo inavutia. Ndiyo.</p><p> DR. LANGER: Na nina uhakika kwamba kutakuwa na mabadiliko mengi katika siku zijazo. Lakini, endelea.</p><p> MS. TIPPETT: Ninamaanisha, inaonekana kama saikolojia - ninamaanisha, hii sio uchunguzi wangu, iko nyuma ya mengi, unajua, kama kazi ya Richard Davidson, kwa mfano. Ninamaanisha, kwamba saikolojia nyingi na akili zilizingatia sana ugonjwa. Wewe pia - unazingatia kuchukua udhibiti, na kutengeneza -</p><p> DR. LANGER: Ndio, halafu mimi, tangu mwanzo ...</p><p> MS. TIPPETT: ...kila dakika kile unachotaka kuwa katika hali chanya.</p><p> DR. LANGER: Ndio. Nilipoanza kufanya utafiti, uwanja ulilemewa na matatizo.</p><p> MS. TIPPETT: Sawa.</p><p> DR. LANGER: Na tangu mwanzo utafiti wangu ulikuwa juu ya ustawi, na - ya kuvutia kwamba lilikuwa neno laini sana kuzungumza juu ya furaha. Kwa hivyo nilizungumza juu ya ustawi. Nadhani mambo yanaendelea kwa njia hii ambayo kwa hakika, unajua, tuna uwanja mzima wa saikolojia chanya.</p><p> MS. TIPPETT: Ndio.</p><p> DR. LANGER: Na, nadhani kitabu changu cha mwisho, kitabu cha <em>Counterclockwise</em> , manukuu, saikolojia - au uwezo wa uwezekano, bado ni tofauti kidogo ambapo badala ya kuelezea ni nini, hata kama tunakielezea kwa njia chanya zaidi, kwamba tunaunda kile tunachotaka kiwe.</p><p> MS. TIPPETT: Ninataka kusema, nadhani ni muhimu sana unaposema - unajua sentensi hii ambayo ulizungumza muda mfupi uliopita kuhusu, kwamba tunafikiria juu ya nini - badala ya kufikiria ni nini, ni kile tunachotaka kuwa, kile kinachowezekana. Unajua, tunasikia lugha nyingi kama hizo sasa katika aina ya aina ya kujisaidia, ambayo inaweza kabisa - ambayo inaweza kuwa nyembamba. Lakini unasema hivyo kama mwanasayansi ambaye amekuwa...</p><p> DR. LANGER: Ndio.</p><p> MS. TIPPETT: ...kwa kweli kuona hili likitekelezwa.</p><p> DR. LANGER: Ndio. Tena, rudi kwenye masomo ya lugha. Miaka mingi iliyopita, nilizungumza kuhusu tofauti kati ya “unaweza” na “unawezaje.” Inaonekana sawa, lakini ni tofauti sana. Unapojiuliza unafanyaje jambo fulani, unaikwepa ego yako kwa maana fulani. Uko nje unachunguza, unahangaika na mambo kujaribu kutafuta suluhu. Ikiwa unajiuliza "unaweza kufanya hivyo?" basi yote unayoweza kuvutia ni ya zamani, na hivyo kwa mambo mengi - wakati watu wanasema, "watu wanaweza tu kufanya A, B, au C," wazo la kwanza katika akili yangu ni daima, vizuri, tunajuaje hilo? Hiyo inawezaje kuwa?</p><p> Ninawauliza wanafunzi wangu kwamba - nasema jinsi ya haraka - hii ilikuwa karibu na wakati wa Marathon ya Boston - na nitasema, jinsi kibinadamu inavyowezekana kukimbia? Na wanafanya hesabu za kushangaza, kwa sababu hawa ni watoto wa ajabu, wanakuja na vitu kama maili 28, 20, unajua, 32.5. Nani anajua? Na kisha ninawaambia kuhusu Tarahumara katika Korongo la Copper huko Mexico. Na hawa ni watu ambao bila kuacha, wanakimbia maili 100, 200 kwa siku. Nilikuwa na mjadala huu na rafiki yangu wakati sisi sote tulikuwa sehemu ya kitengo cha shule ya matibabu juu ya kuzeeka, na nikampigia simu siku moja, na nikasema, "Ungesema hadi lini - yeye ni daktari - inachukua kwa kidole kilichovunjika kupona?" Na kwa hivyo akasema, "Nitasema wiki." Nikasema, “Sawa, kama ningekuambia ningeweza kuliponya kwa njia za kisaikolojia katika siku tano, ungesema nini?” Akasema, “Vema, sawa.” "Nilisema siku nne?" Akasema, “Sawa.” Nikasema, “Vipi kuhusu siku tatu?” Anasema, “Hapana.” Nikasema, “Sawa, vipi kuhusu siku tatu na saa 23?” Sawa, jambo ni kuwa...</p><p> MS. TIPPETT: Ndio.</p><p> DR. LANGER: ... unajua, ni wakati gani huo ambao kwa upande huu unaweza, kwa upande mwingine, huwezi?</p><p> [ <em>Muziki: “Wapishi Wengi Sana” na Portico Quartet</em> ]</p><p> MS. TIPPETT: Kwa hivyo, ninamaanisha, inanishangaza kwamba kuna athari za maisha ya umma kwa hili.</p><p> DR. LANGER: Ndiyo. Ndiyo.</p><p> MS. TIPPETT: Na nilikuwa nikifikiria juu yake, namaanisha, kwa sababu ikiwa unafikiria juu ya ukweli kwamba katika maisha yetu ya umma, ambayo ni jambo ambalo ninasumbua sana, huwa tunauliza tu tunaweza, sivyo? Swali la ndiyo/hapana. Na kisha tunabishana ndiyo au hapana.</p><p> DR. LANGER: Mm-hmm.</p><p> MS. TIPPETT: Na kwa kweli hatutengenezi uwezekano mkubwa ...</p><p> DR. LANGER: Sawa.</p><p> MS. TIPPETT: ...juu ya masomo muhimu sana.</p><p> DR. LANGER: Ndiyo.</p><p> MS. TIPPETT: Ambayo ni - namaanisha, kwa hivyo nadhani unaiweka katika muktadha tofauti, ambayo inavutia sana kufikiria.</p><p> DR. LANGER: Ndio. Nadhani hilo - hapa kuna lingine ambalo litasikika kuwa la kushangaza. Lakini, ninapinga maelewano.</p><p> MS. TIPPETT: Ndio.</p><p> DR. LANGER: Je! Kwa sababu maelewano inaonekana kukumbuka sana.</p><p> MS. TIPPETT: Sawa, sema zaidi. Naipenda.</p><p> DR. LANGER: Kweli, sababu yake ni kwa sababu ni makubaliano kwa kila mtu kupoteza. Ni kupunguza tu hasara zako.</p><p> MS. TIPPETT: Ndio.</p><p> DR. LANGER: Unajua, badala ya kutafuta suluhu la kushinda/kushinda, ambalo mara nyingi huwa huko nje.</p><p> MS. TIPPETT: Kweli, inaonekana kama tunaweza kuzungumza juu ya hilo kwa saa nyingine. Tunakaribia mwisho, nataka kukuuliza swali la mwisho, la aina kubwa. Kuzungumza juu ya kuwa mwangalifu pia ni kuzungumza juu ya kuwa na ufahamu.</p><p> DR. LANGER: Ndiyo.</p><p> MS. TIPPETT: Na kuuliza swali jinsi gani tunaweza kuishi vizuri, ni swali kuwepo. Ni tofauti, ukitaka, ni mageuzi ya swali hili ambalo limepitishwa katika historia ya mwanadamu. Kwa hivyo, ninashangaa tu jinsi kazi hii unayofanya inakufanya ufikirie tofauti kuhusu swali hilo kubwa la maana ya kuwa mwanadamu, na kile ambacho tunaweza kuwa tunajifunza kuhusu hilo, ambacho hatujaelewa hapo awali.</p><p> DR. LANGER: Ndio. Inavutia. Kweli, nilikuwa naenda kuandika utopia ya kukumbuka wakati mmoja, na hatimaye labda nitafanya, na kutoa aina hii ya swali mawazo halisi. Lakini nadhani kwamba matatizo mengi ambayo watu hupitia kama watu binafsi, katika mahusiano yao, katika vikundi, katika tamaduni, duniani kote - na hiyo ni kauli kubwa sana - karibu matatizo yote ni matokeo ya kutokuwa na akili, kwa njia moja au nyingine. Moja kwa moja au isiyo ya moja kwa moja. Na ili utamaduni unavyozidi kuwa wa kukumbuka, nadhani mambo haya yote yatabadilika kwa kawaida. Unajua, katika ngazi ya kitamaduni, watu wanapigania rasilimali chache, lakini rasilimali labda sio mdogo kama watu wanavyodhani. Ubinafsi wa watu uko hatarini, hata wakati wanajadiliana juu ya kiwango cha nchi.</p><p> MS. TIPPETT: Ndio.</p><p> DR. LANGER: Na hawaangaliwi kwa mtindo huo na wakakaribia kwa njia hiyo. Kwamba unapokuwa na watu wanaoenda kufanya kazi wakijihisi vizuri na maisha ya kazi yanawasisimua, kuwafurahisha, kuwalea, watakuwa wakifanya kazi zaidi. Na wao ni kwenda kuwa chini evaluative ya watu wengine. Na mara sisi sote tunaanza kuhisi kutotathminiwa, hiyo huturuhusu kuwa wabunifu zaidi, waangalifu, kuchukua hatari zaidi, kwa sababu sio hatari sana na kuwa wapole katika maoni yetu kwa watu wengine.</p><p> Hatimaye nadhani kwamba kwangu, maana ya kuwa binadamu ni kujisikia wa kipekee lakini kutambua kwamba kila mtu mwingine pia ni wa kipekee. Na, nadhani kwamba watu - hivi sasa, nadhani watu wanahisi kuwa na furaha, furaha ya kweli kwa njia hii ya kina ambayo ninarejelea - sio kwamba umeshinda tuzo au kununua kitu kipya au chochote - kwamba wanafikiria kuwa hili ni jambo ambalo mtu anapaswa kushuhudia wakati mwingine. Unajua, labda ikiwa utapata uzoefu zaidi kuliko watu wengine, wewe ni mmoja wa walio na bahati.</p><p> MS. TIPPETT: Ndio.</p><p> DR. LANGER: Wapi, nadhani inapaswa kuwa jinsi ulivyo wakati wote.</p><p> MS. TIPPETT: Na hiyo - lakini, namaanisha, kwa hivyo unajua, ulisema muda mfupi uliopita "mambo mengi ni usumbufu, badala ya janga." Kuna majanga. Kwa hivyo, furaha hii ni nini, jinsi hii ya kuwa ...</p><p> DR. LANGER: Kweli, inavutia ...</p><p> MS. TIPPETT: ...fanya kazi katika nyakati hizo...</p><p> DR. LANGER: Ndio, wacha nikupe mfano wa kitu. Miaka mingi iliyopita, nilipata moto mkubwa ambao uliharibu asilimia 80 ya mali niliyomiliki. Na nilipoita kampuni ya bima, na wakaja siku iliyofuata, mtu huyo - wakala wa bima, alikuwa ameniambia kwamba hii ilikuwa simu ya kwanza ambayo angepata ambapo uharibifu ulikuwa mbaya zaidi kuliko simu. Na, niliwaza juu yake, nikawazia, “Vema, jamani, unajua, tayari imechukua vitu vyangu, vyovyote vile.”</p><p> MS. TIPPETT: Ndio.</p><p> DR. LANGER: "Kwa nini kutoa roho yangu? Unajua, kwamba - kwa nini kulipa mara mbili?" Ambayo ndio watu hufanya mara nyingi. Kitu kinatokea, una hasara hiyo, na kisha utaenda sasa kutupa nguvu zako zote za kihisia huko. Na kwa hivyo unaongeza maradufu juu ya hasi. Na ya kuvutia, unajua, kurejea jinsi gani unaweza kuchukua janga na kufanya - na kuiona - kwa sababu tunaweza kusema, moto haikuwa rahisi kitu kidogo. Kwamba nilikaa hotelini kwa muda kidogo. Nilikuwa na mbwa wawili pamoja nami. Kwa hiyo nilikuwa njozi nilipotembea kwenye ukumbi kila siku, nyumba yangu ilipokuwa ikijengwa upya. Na ilikuwa Krismasi wakati hii ilifanyika, siku chache kabla ya mkesha wa Krismasi. Siku ya mkesha wa Krismasi, nilitoka chumbani kwangu, nilirudi saa nyingi baadaye, na chumba kilikuwa kimejaa zawadi. Na haikutoka kwa wasimamizi, wala haikutoka kwa mwenye hoteli. Ni watu walioegesha gari langu, watumishi wa chumbani, wahudumu. Ilikuwa ya ajabu. Unapoondoa ukosefu wote wa usalama usio na akili, watu ni kitu kabisa. Na kwa hivyo ninatafakari juu ya hilo. Sikuweza kukuambia chochote nilichopoteza kwenye moto. Lakini kwa wakati huu, nina kumbukumbu hiyo ambayo ilikuwa zaidi ya chanya. Kwa hivyo wakati mwingine njia ambazo mambo hujitokeza zinaweza kutokea kwa muda mrefu zaidi.</p><p> [ <em>Muziki: “Kepesh” na Arms and Sleepers</em> ]</p><p> MS. TIPPETT: Ellen Langer ni mwanasaikolojia wa kijamii na profesa katika idara ya saikolojia katika Chuo Kikuu cha Harvard. Vitabu vyake ni pamoja na <em>Kuzingatia</em> na <em>Kukabiliana na Saa: Afya ya Kuzingatia na Nguvu ya Uwezekano</em> .</p><p> [ <em>Muziki: “Kepesh” na Arms and Sleepers</em> ]</p><p> MS. TIPPETT: Unaweza kusikiliza tena na kushiriki kipindi hiki kwenye onbeing.org. <em>On Being</em> ni Trent Gilliss, Chris Heagle, Lily Percy, Mariah Helgeson, Nicki Oster, Michelle Keeley, Maia Tarrell, Annie Parsons, Tony Birleffi, Marie Sambilay, na Hannah Rehak.</p><p> Washirika wetu wakuu wa ufadhili ni:</p><p> Msingi wa John Templeton.</p><p> Wakfu wa Ford, wakifanya kazi na wenye maono katika mstari wa mbele wa mabadiliko ya kijamii duniani kote, kwenye fordfoundation.org.</p><p> Taasisi ya Fetzer, inakuza ufahamu wa nguvu ya upendo na msamaha ili kubadilisha ulimwengu wetu. Wapate kwenye fetzer.org.</p><p> Kalliopeia Foundation, inayochangia mashirika ambayo yanajumuisha heshima, usawa, na uthabiti katika mfumo wa maisha ya kisasa.</p><p> Henry Luce Foundation, kwa kuunga mkono mpango mpya: Theolojia ya Umma Imefikiriwa Upya.</p><p> Na, Wakfu wa Osprey - kichocheo cha maisha yaliyowezeshwa, yenye afya na ukamilifu.</p><p> Mfadhili wetu wa kampuni ni Mutual of America.</p><p> Tangu 1945, Wamarekani wamegeukia Mutual of America ili kusaidia kupanga kustaafu kwao na kufikia malengo yao ya muda mrefu ya kifedha. 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You don't need to fluff up what's being said with new age-y music. Let the ideas speak for themselves! I hate having to keep hitting the damn mute button.</p> </div> <div class="comment-actions"> <a href="https://www.dailygood.org/story/1250/-p-ifuatayo-ni-sauti-na-nakala-ya-mahojiano-ya-a-href-http-www-onbeing-org-program-ellen-langer-science-of-mindlessness-and-mindfulness-transcript-7906-onbeing-org-a-kati-ya-krista-tippett-na-ellen-langer-p-p-p-iframe-frameborder-no-height-on-being/?t=showComment&cid=5863#addcomment" class="reply-link" data-cmt-id="5863" data-cmt-author="Joan"><i class="bi bi-reply"></i> Reply</a> <span class="btn-light post_btn small"></span> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="comment-item" id="cmt_5862"> <div class="comment-container"> <div class="comment-avatar"> <img src="https://pod.servicespace.org/pics/mem/blank.jpg" alt="User avatar"> </div> <div class="comment-content-wrapper"> <div class="comment-meta"> <span class="comment-author">HealThyself</span> <span class="comment-date">Mar 28, 2016</span> <a href="https://www.dailygood.org/story/1250/-p-ifuatayo-ni-sauti-na-nakala-ya-mahojiano-ya-a-href-http-www-onbeing-org-program-ellen-langer-science-of-mindlessness-and-mindfulness-transcript-7906-onbeing-org-a-kati-ya-krista-tippett-na-ellen-langer-p-p-p-iframe-frameborder-no-height-on-being/?t=showComment&cid=5862" class="ms-auto link-icon text-muted"><i class='fa fa-link'></i></a> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <p>I have a book by Kenneth R. Pelletier, copyright 1977, "Mind as Healer, Mind as Slayer".</p> </div> <div class="comment-actions"> <a href="https://www.dailygood.org/story/1250/-p-ifuatayo-ni-sauti-na-nakala-ya-mahojiano-ya-a-href-http-www-onbeing-org-program-ellen-langer-science-of-mindlessness-and-mindfulness-transcript-7906-onbeing-org-a-kati-ya-krista-tippett-na-ellen-langer-p-p-p-iframe-frameborder-no-height-on-being/?t=showComment&cid=5862#addcomment" class="reply-link" data-cmt-id="5862" data-cmt-author="HealThyself"><i class="bi bi-reply"></i> Reply</a> <span class="btn-light post_btn small"></span> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="comment-item" id="cmt_5861"> <div class="comment-container"> <div class="comment-avatar"> <img src="https://pod.servicespace.org/pics/mem/blank.jpg" alt="User avatar"> </div> <div class="comment-content-wrapper"> <div class="comment-meta"> <span class="comment-author">Donald Higdon</span> <span class="comment-date">Mar 28, 2016</span> <a href="https://www.dailygood.org/story/1250/-p-ifuatayo-ni-sauti-na-nakala-ya-mahojiano-ya-a-href-http-www-onbeing-org-program-ellen-langer-science-of-mindlessness-and-mindfulness-transcript-7906-onbeing-org-a-kati-ya-krista-tippett-na-ellen-langer-p-p-p-iframe-frameborder-no-height-on-being/?t=showComment&cid=5861" class="ms-auto link-icon text-muted"><i class='fa fa-link'></i></a> </div> <div class="comment-content"> <p>This is not news. William James was saying this in the 19th century.</p> </div> <div class="comment-actions"> <a href="https://www.dailygood.org/story/1250/-p-ifuatayo-ni-sauti-na-nakala-ya-mahojiano-ya-a-href-http-www-onbeing-org-program-ellen-langer-science-of-mindlessness-and-mindfulness-transcript-7906-onbeing-org-a-kati-ya-krista-tippett-na-ellen-langer-p-p-p-iframe-frameborder-no-height-on-being/?t=showComment&cid=5861#addcomment" class="reply-link" data-cmt-id="5861" data-cmt-author="Donald Higdon"><i class="bi bi-reply"></i> Reply</a> <span class="btn-light post_btn small"></span> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <script> $(document).ready(function() { // Toggle between short and full comments $('.see_full_cmt').on('click', function(e) { e.preventDefault(); var cid = $(this).attr('cid'); $('.short_cmt' + cid).hide(); $('.long_cmt' + cid).show(); }); $('.see_short_cmt').on('click', function(e) { e.preventDefault(); var cid = $(this).attr('cid'); $('.long_cmt' + cid).hide(); $('.short_cmt' + cid).show(); }); }); </script> </div>   </div> </div> </div> </div> </section> <script src="js/story.js?2cue"></script>  <footer class="footer"> <div class="container"> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-5 mb-4 mb-md-0"> <h5 class="footer-title">About DailyGood</h5> <p class="footer-about-text"> For over 29 years, DailyGood has been a volunteer-led movement to share uplifting stories that connect hearts and inspire action — all without ads, agendas, or asks. 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