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kuanguka, kwa sababu umechoka sana, kiwango hicho cha kushuka ndani ya mwili wako na hisia, kama kama ungechukua uzoefu huo na kuanza kusikiliza basi mwili wako kutoka kwa kiwango hicho, ndivyo ninavyofikiri ni. Ni kutua, ni msingi, ni hisia ya embodiment. Kuna sababu kwa nini, wakati mwanangu ambaye ana miaka sita analia, anahitaji kukumbatiwa. Sio tu kwamba anahitaji upendo wangu. Anahitaji mipaka karibu na uzoefu wake. Anahitaji kujua kwamba maumivu yamezuiliwa na yanaweza kuwekwa na haitakuwa kizuizi kwake yote ambayo anaweza - anakumbatiwa na, hmm, anaanguka ndani ya mwili wake. Na unapoanguka ndani ya mwili wako, kwa kushangaza, maumivu huwa kidogo. Maumivu yanazidi kuwa makali na zaidi ...</p><p> Bi. Tippett: Unapoogopa na jaribu kuiweka pembeni.</p><p> Bw. Sanford: … na kisha kujiondoa, kwa kweli inanyima uhuru. Na ni mkakati mzuri wa muda mfupi. Ndivyo nilivyofanya nilipokuwa na umri wa miaka 13. Nilijiondoa kwenye mwili wangu ili kuipata, lakini ni mkakati wa muda mfupi. Na mengi ya mchakato wa maisha yangu ni kama kujumuisha tena na kuruhusu - na kuzunguka kile kinachoendelea, ili niweze kuwa sehemu ya ulimwengu.</p><p> [Muziki]</p><p> Bi. Tippett: Kwenye onbeing.org, pakua mahojiano yangu yote ambayo hayajahaririwa na Matthew Sanford. Unaweza pia kutazama video ya mazungumzo yetu ya ndani ya studio. Na unaweza kujionea baadhi ya mikao ya yoga ya Matthew Sanford. Tumechapisha klipu kutoka kwa DVD yake "Zaidi ya Ulemavu" kwenye tovuti yetu. Tafuta viungo kwa hilo na mengi zaidi. Tena, kwenye onbeing.org.</p><p> Inakuja, zaidi ya uzoefu wa Matthew Sanford wa muunganisho wa akili na mwili; na kiungo kati ya miili yetu na huruma.</p><p> Mimi ni Krista Tippett. Kipindi hiki kinakujia kutoka kwa APM, Midia ya Umma ya Marekani.</p><p> [Matangazo]</p><p> Bi. Tippett: Mimi ni Krista Tippett, na hii ni <em>On Being</em> . Leo, "The Body's Grace," pamoja na mwalimu wa yoga Matthew Sanford.</p><p> Amekuwa akielezea safu yake ya kujifunza kuwa mzima kimwili. Mnamo 1978, alipooza kutoka kifua kwenda chini, katika ajali ya gari iliyoua baba yake na dada yake. Ameandika kitabu kiitwacho <em>Waking: A Memoir of Trauma and Transcendence</em> . Pia ni tafakari ya mafunzo ya kina maishani mwa Matthew Sanford kwa utamaduni wetu mkubwa. Hapa kuna kifungu kingine alichonisomea:</p><p> Bw. Sanford: (anasoma) Ninapoamka kwa hofu ya kumbukumbu za mwili zilizosababishwa na kiwewe, ninalazimika kuhisi kifo - sio mwisho wa maisha yangu, lakini kifo cha maisha yangu kama mtu anayetembea.</p><p> … Kimsingi, uzoefu wangu si wa kawaida, ila uliokithiri zaidi. … Ikiwa tunaweza kuona kifo kuwa zaidi ya nyeusi na nyeupe, kama zaidi ya kuwasha na kuzima, kuna matoleo mengi ya kifo kinachotambulika ambacho hakina kufa kimwili. Kifo cha mpendwa huanzisha mengi sana.</p><p> … Halafu pia kuna vifo vya kimya kimya. Vipi siku ile ulipogundua kuwa hutakuwa mwanaanga au malkia wa Sheba? Sikia umbali wa kimya kati yako na jinsi ulivyohisi kama mtoto, kati yako na hisia hizo za mshangao na utukufu na uaminifu. Sikia upendo wako wa ukomavu kwa jinsi ulivyokuwa hapo awali, na hitaji lako la sasa la kulinda kutokuwa na hatia popote unapoweza kuipata. Ukimya unaozunguka upotevu wa kutokuwa na hatia ni kifo kikubwa zaidi, na bado, ni muhimu kwa mwanzo wa ukomavu.</p><p> Vipi kuhusu siku tulipoanza kufanya kazi si kwa ajili yetu wenyewe, bali tukiwa na matumaini kwamba watoto wetu wanaweza kuwa na maisha bora? Au siku tulipogundua kwamba, kwa ujumla, maisha ya watu wazima yanajirudia sana? Maisha yetu yanapobadilika kuwa ya kawaida, wakati maadili yetu yanapotoshwa na kuharibika, tunapoosha vyombo baada ya mlo mwingine tena, tunaunganisha kifo, sehemu ndogo yetu inakufa, ili sehemu nyingine iweze kuishi.</p><p> [Muziki]</p><p> Bi. Tippett: Unajua, nataka kuzungumzia jinsi ulivyoishi na kile kilichokupata. Nadhani utamaduni wetu unaelekea kupenda mashujaa, huwa na misemo kama vile "kushinda vikwazo" na "kushinda" na "kuwa mshindi." Na nina hakika hungetaka kupunguza mfano wa mtu kama Christopher Reeve, lakini, unajua, huo ulikuwa mfano wa mtu ambaye, um, uponyaji ungemrudisha nyuma ...</p><p> Bw. Sanford: Kushinda.</p><p> Bi. Tippett: … kugeuza yaliyompata.</p><p> Bw. Sanford: Mm-hmm. Na huo ungekuwa mfano mzuri wa hadithi ya uponyaji. Na nadhani hiyo ni moja ya kuenea sana katika utamaduni wetu.</p><p> Bi. Tippett: Ndiyo.</p><p> Bw. Sanford: Na linapokuja suala la uponyaji, linapokuja suala la kundi zima, linapokuja suala la uzee, tunamstaajabia kijana huyo mwenye umri wa miaka 80 ambaye anakimbia mbio za marathoni.</p><p> Bi. Tippett: Ndiyo.</p><p> Bw. Sanford: Unajua, tunataka kuona uthibitisho huo kwamba akili inaweza kushinda jambo kwa sababu mwili ndio utakaoishia kuzima. Na niamini, sikupata hii mara moja. Namaanisha, nilivunjika mguu nikifanya yoga, unajua? mimi…</p><p> Bi. Tippett: Kwa sababu ulikuwa unajaribu kuwa shujaa. Sawa.</p><p> Bw. Sanford: Lo, nilikuwa - kwa ghafla, nilitaka kufanya pozi na, kama, kuonyesha ni kiasi gani ningeweza kufanya na, kupiga, na ...</p><p> Bi. Tippett: Inyooshe hadi kikomo.</p><p> Bw. Sanford: Na mimi, kwa bahati mbaya, haikunibidi, unajua, mimi si chombo chenye ncha kali zaidi kwenye banda. Ilinibidi nivunje mfupa tena kabla sijajifunza kutokuwa na jeuri.</p><p> Bi. Tippett: Unamaanisha kutokuwa na jeuri kwa mwili wako?</p><p> Bw. Sanford: Kwa mwili wangu. Lakini unahitaji kila aina ya nguvu. Unahitaji kuweza pia - na inatumika kupita kiasi. Na mimi sasa, sasa hivi, baada ya miaka 15 ya yoga, ninaelewa neno hili zaidi na zaidi, na hiyo ni "kujisalimisha." Na inatokana na kuwepo zaidi, kujisalimisha katika ulimwengu, kuhisi zaidi. Lakini simaanishi kiakili. Namaanisha kuwa na mwili wako kana kwamba unakumbatiwa kama mwanangu. Ina hisia kama hiyo, "ah". Hiyo ni nguvu kweli. Lakini moyo wako huhisi hatari unapojiruhusu kuwa katika ulimwengu kama huo. Ndiyo maana tunaepuka. Unajua, aina ya nguvu ninayozungumzia ambayo imeongoza mengi ya uchunguzi wangu inakufanya uhisi, oh, hatari sana na inakufanya uhisi zaidi.</p><p> Bi. Tippett: Katika hadithi yako, kulikuwa na nyakati ambapo wewe - sema, hatua moja ya ufahamu wako wa hili na kukabiliana nayo ilikuwa kuamua kwamba bado ulikuwa na matumizi ya nusu ya juu ya mwili wako na kwamba ungefanya kuwa na nguvu iwezekanavyo, na ungeishi katika sehemu hiyo ya mwili wako na aina ya kutangaza kuwa sehemu iliyobaki imeondoka.</p><p> Bw. Sanford: Hivyo ndivyo nilivyoongozwa kuamini, kwa maoni yangu.</p><p> Bi. Tippett: Sawa. Na je, kwa kweli, ulihisi kutoweza kuathiriwa zaidi ulipotoa tamko kama hilo?</p><p> Bw. Sanford: Um, unajua, nilihisi siwezi kushindwa? Hapana. Lakini wazo hilo la kuwa na nia na kuweza kushambulia tatizo lolote kwa utashi mwingi ...</p><p> Bi. Tippett: Ndiyo.</p><p> Bw. Sanford: … hiyo inakufanya uhisi aina ya udhibiti juu ya ulimwengu…</p><p> Bi. Tippett: Ndiyo.</p><p> Bw. Sanford: … hiyo inaweza kukufanya uhisi hatari kidogo. Lakini pia najua kisichofikirika kinawezekana. Unaweza kuwa na udhibiti kadri unavyotaka, lakini dunia ni kubwa sana. Maisha hufanya mambo yake na sisi kwa kiwango fulani.</p><p> Bi. Tippett: Unajua ni nini kinachovutia? Unajua, maneno - Nadhani lugha yote inayozunguka kitu kama muunganisho wa akili na mwili imejaa kidogo, kama vile lugha nyingi kuhusu dini na kiroho zinavyoweza kusikika. Na, namaanisha, ulikuwa na uzoefu na waganga kwamba ulifanya yoga na walikufikiria kama New Age-y. Na nadhani sehemu ya hilo ni tatizo la lugha tu. Lakini kile unachoashiria ni kwamba mengi yetu - kutukuza kwa tamaduni ya mapenzi na ushindi kwa dhamira, hiyo pia ni aina ya mwili wa akili, unajua, tunadai muunganisho wa mwili wa akili bila kuiita hivyo.</p><p> Bw. Sanford: Sawa. Ni aina ya ushirikiano. Utawala juu ya miili ...</p><p> Bi. Tippett: Sawa.</p><p> Bw. Sanford: … ndivyo wanadamu wamefanya kwa maelfu ya miaka, iwe ni asili, iwe ni kila mmoja. Kwamba ni - hoja yangu yote ni kwamba pia tunahitaji - hiyo ni jambo moja tunataka katika ukanda wa zana, kutumia mapenzi wakati unahitaji kuwa nayo. Lakini sisi, nadhani, ni mwanzo tu wa kutambua kwamba kuna njia nyingine nyingi za kuunganisha na mwili. Na, kwa kweli, ninaamini kuishi kwetu kwa wanadamu kwa wakati kutategemea sisi kupata ufahamu zaidi wa miili.</p><p> Bi. Tippett: Na hata katika miili ambayo haifanyi kazi na ukamilifu ambao tunautamani, ambao, kwa kweli, ni udanganyifu.</p><p> Bw. Sanford: Ambayo ni moja ya mambo kuhusu yoga ...</p><p> Bi. Tippett: Na ninamaanisha, kuzeeka ni mfano wa hilo pia.</p><p> Bw. Sanford: Na pia, unajua, mimi pia ni mtaalamu wa kurekebisha yoga kwa watu wenye ulemavu.</p><p> Bi. Tippett: Sawa.</p><p> Bw. Sanford: Na moja yangu - inanifanya nipende yoga zaidi. Yoga inaweza kusafiri kupitia mwili wowote. Sio kuhusu pozi kamili. Sio hivyo. Ni kama kihalisi ni jambo linalotokea kwa nia ya akili yako na mipaka ya mwili wako. Nilifikiri nilipoanza kufundisha yoga ya kubadilika, hiyo ndiyo nilianza kufundisha kwanza. Nikawaza, “Vema…</p><p> Bi. Tippett: Na yoga ya kubadilika inamaanisha?</p><p> Bw. Sanford: Kurekebisha tu pozi za yoga na chochote unachoweza ili kuruhusu au kuwa na mtu anayeishi na asiye na uwezo.</p><p> Bi. Tippett: Kwa lolote linalowezekana kimwili.</p><p> Bw. Sanford: Sawa, kufanya chochote wanachoweza kufanya na yoga, kuirekebisha kwa mtu ambaye hana uhusiano rahisi wa mwili wa akili. Lakini unaona darasani wanachofanya tayari. Mambo ambayo baadhi ya wanafunzi wangu tayari hufanya ili tu kuishi maisha yao ya kila siku wao wenyewe ni suluhu za kimiujiza kwa tatizo la akili-mwili. Sio, kama, "Lo, fanya hivi. Njia hii ni bora zaidi. Njia hii ni bora zaidi." Ni bora uhakikishe unaelewa kwa nini wanasonga jinsi wanavyosonga, ni shida gani inasuluhisha. Na inakufanya uende tu, "Loo, wema wangu, kuna ujanja mwingi katika uhusiano wa akili na mwili wa mwanadamu." Na kisha unajaribu kuwasaidia kuifanya na sio mapenzi sana.</p><p> Bi. Tippett: Ninataka kukuuliza kuhusu jambo uliloandika. "Sijawahi kuona mtu yeyote kweli kuwa na ufahamu zaidi wa mwili wake bila pia kuwa na huruma zaidi." Hiyo inahusu nini? Ni nini hicho? Kwa nini ni hivyo?</p><p> Bw. Sanford: Naam, ni kweli tu. Ni uchunguzi.</p><p> Bi. Tippett: Lakini kwa nini unafikiri ni kweli?</p><p> Bwana Sanford: Nadhani ni kweli kwa mengi - nadhani haswa - kwa maoni yangu, akili inapojitenga na mwili, tunajiharibu zaidi. Tunapata uharibifu zaidi kwa ujumla.</p><p> Bi. Tippett: Ikiwa tumejitenga zaidi na nafsi zetu wenyewe, je, tunajitenga zaidi na wengine pia?</p><p> Bw. Sanford: Nafikiri hivyo. Unapokuwa katika mwili wako zaidi, unahisi kuwa umeunganishwa zaidi na watu. Unafikiri juu ya umuhimu wa maisha mengine. Na unapokuwa sehemu ya ulimwengu, ni vigumu zaidi kutohisi huruma kuhusu ulimwengu.</p><p> (Sauti ya darasa la yoga)</p><p> Bw. Sanford: Sawa, kwa hiyo sasa, unajua, kaa kwenye mkeka wako - je, tumejikongoja humu ndani? Kila mtu yuko sawa?</p><p> Bi. Tippett: Tulitembelea darasa ambalo Matthew Sanford alifundisha Jumatatu moja jioni katika Kituo cha Ujasiri, kituo cha ukarabati kwa watu walio na kila aina ya changamoto za kimwili huko Golden Valley, Minnesota. Pia amefanya kazi katika miaka ya hivi karibuni na maveterani wa kijeshi. Katika darasa hili, watu wa kujitolea huwasaidia wanafunzi, ambao baadhi yao ni walemavu, kusogeza miili yao kwenye pozi analoita Matthew Sanford kutoka kwenye mkeka.</p><p> Bw. Sanford: <em>(akifundisha darasa)</em> Kwa hivyo sasa kila mtu - tunajaribu kufanya kila mtu awe tayari. Lakini ikiwa tayari umelala nyuma yako, chukua mikono yako juu ya kichwa chako. Chukua mikono yako juu ya kichwa chako. Nyoosha mikono yako. Nyoosha mikono yako na unyoosha kupitia visigino vyako. Kukua halisi. Pata urefu zaidi. Lakini basi nataka - kukuruhusu uchague sehemu katikati ya mwili wako, kama vile kulala - ambapo mgongo wako unagusa sakafu katikati ya mgongo. Kama vile jaribu kukua kutoka katikati ya mwili wako kupitia vidole vyako, kupitia visigino vyako.</p><p> Mojawapo ya mambo tunayoacha, unajua, tunapokuwa na uhusiano mgumu wa akili na mwili ni kukata tamaa, kunyoosha kutoka kwa vidole hadi miguu. Na sijali hata kama huwezi kuifanya kimwili, sivyo? Nataka uanze kuona uwepo wako kwenye mwili wako kana kwamba unakua, kama ni wa kikaboni na unajumuisha mwili wako. Mm-hmm. Kwa hivyo pumzi chache zifuatazo, pumua na mwili wako wa nyuma, pumua ...</p><p> Bi. Tippett: Tazama video na uone picha za darasa la yoga la Matthew Sanford kwenye onbeing.org. Mimi ni Krista Tippett, na hii ni <em>On Being</em> — mazungumzo kuhusu maana, dini, maadili na mawazo.</p><p> Leo, na Matthew Sanford kwenye "Neema ya Mwili."</p><p> Bi. Tippett: Na lazima niseme, nimekaa hapa na wewe na mwili wako uko hai sana na inaonekana kwangu kuwa umeunganishwa sana. Unajua, uko kwenye kiti cha magurudumu, lakini umehuishwa. Una nishati ya ajabu. Na unatumia neno "ulemavu" kwako mwenyewe? Je, unajiona kuwa mlemavu? Na ikiwa utafanya, hiyo inamaanisha nini?</p><p> Bw. Sanford: Nina rundo zima la mawazo kuhusu hilo. Ninachoka kuwa na lugha lazima iwe sahihi.</p><p> Bi. Tippett: Ndiyo.</p><p> Bw. Sanford: Na nadhani lugha ndiyo hatua ya kwanza ya fahamu kusonga, kwa hivyo ninaivumilia, unajua? Lakini mtu anaponiambia kwamba siwezi kujiita mlemavu au mlemavu wa miguu au kitu chochote, ama neno lolote liwezalo kuwa, kwa namna fulani nataka kumwangalia na kwenda, "Ngoja, ni uzoefu wangu."</p><p> Bi. Tippett: Na pengine — sitaki utumie neno hilo kwa sababu halifurahishi kwa mtu mwingine.</p><p> Bw. Sanford: Kwa ajili yao.</p><p> Bi. Tippett: Ndiyo.</p><p> Bw. Sanford: Naam, hiyo ndiyo hoja yangu, unajua? Ni kama ninatambua ni jaribio la kuleta ufahamu zaidi kwa suala linalozunguka ulemavu. Lakini nadhani inaleta maadili mengi kuzunguka, kama kuna jambo sahihi na jambo baya kusema. Na nadhani hiyo sio fahamu, ni maneno tu.</p><p> Bi. Tippett: Sawa.</p><p> Bw. Sanford: Sawa. Kwa hivyo ndio kiwango cha hiyo. Lakini je, ninajiona kama mlemavu? Lazima nikuambie kwa uaminifu kwamba kuna nyakati, hata sasa, miaka 27-pamoja baadaye, ambapo nitaona kivuli changu na kushtuka. Unajua, kama nitaiangalia. Iko kwenye kiti cha magurudumu na ni kama, "Wow, ndivyo ninavyoonekana wakati ninazunguka ulimwenguni." Kama, sipendi, lakini wakati huo huo, hakika mimi ni mlemavu.</p><p> Lakini nguvu yangu ya maisha haijaamuliwa kabisa na uwezo wa kukunja misuli, kwamba kuna kitu hapa. Sijui ni nini na sijali inaelezewa na neurophysiologically, lakini kuna uwepo hapa ambao unapita kupitia sisi ambao haujaamuliwa tu na ukweli kama ningeweza kusimama au la. Na nimekuwa nikihisi kuongezeka huko kila wakati. Ninajua pia kwamba uhusiano huo ndio ulinifanya kuwa mwanariadha mzuri kama mtoto mdogo. Ni kama, unahisi kutupa bure. Na inatoka kwenye miguu yako, na inatoka kwenye mikono yako, na inatoka kwa umoja. Umoja huo wote bado upo, sivyo? Siwezi kabisa kusimama.</p><p> Bi. Tippett: Kwa hiyo, unajua, unaeleza katika kitabu chako kwamba kwa nyakati tofauti katika maisha yako, na kupitia operesheni zote, na jeraha lako la awali na majeraha mengine, wewe basi, wakati fulani, ulianza kutambua kwamba uponyaji unaweza kuonekana kama kitu tofauti kuliko kuweza kutembea tena. Namaanisha, unahisi kuwa umepona?</p><p> Bw. Sanford: Nafikiri uhusiano wangu wa akili na mwili unaendelea kuimarika, kwamba ninapofanya mazoezi ya yoga na kuwa makini na kuwa katika mapenzi na ulimwengu, kwa hakika, unaendelea kuimarika. Kabla ya kuanza yoga, kwa kweli nilihisi kama kiwiliwili cha juu kinachoelea. Na kama vile ningekuwa nikizungumza hapa na wewe, ningezungumza zaidi na mwili wangu wa juu. Bado unaweza kuiona. Na watu wengi wana…</p><p> Bi. Tippett: Ndio, lakini wewe ni - ninahisi kama unazungumza na mwili wako wote.</p><p> Bw. Sanford: Jambo zima. Inapita katika jambo zima. Na uwepo huo haukugunduliwa ndani yangu kabla ya kuanza yoga.</p><p> Bi. Tippett: Na unasema kwamba uwepo huo ni juu ya akili yako kuunganishwa na mwili wako ...</p><p> Bw. Sanford: Na kama vile ninazungumza nawe kwa nafsi yangu yote. Ni kama yoga ilinimwagia maji na kupitia kwangu. Na nilikuwa mkavu sana na nimechoka hapo awali na kwamba kulikuwa na mengi zaidi hapa ambayo yalihitaji kuwa hapa, sivyo? Na kwa hivyo mimi hufanya mazoezi ya yoga sio tu kuwa, kama, bora sana kwenye pozi za yoga. Ninafanya mazoezi ya yoga kuhisi hivi.</p><p> Bi. Tippett: Um, unasema wakati fulani katika kumbukumbu yako kwamba hukubaliani kabisa wakati watu wanaposema, "Mwili wangu unanidhoofisha." Mimi pia niko katika miaka ya 40. Unajua, watu huanza kusema hivi baada ya kuwa na miaka 40. Ni macho yako au magoti yako, sivyo? Lakini unasema kwamba hiyo ni makosa kabisa.</p><p> Bw. Sanford: Na nasema hivyo na ni huzuni tele kwangu kwa sababu nilichukua nafasi ya mwili wangu nikiwa na umri wa miaka 13 kwa kuuacha mwili wangu kunyonya majeraha yote ambayo ilifanya. Na somo mojawapo ambalo nimejifunza ni mwili wangu ndio ulionifanya niishi. Mwili wako, kwa muda mrefu iwezekanavyo, utakuwa mwaminifu kwa kuishi. Ndivyo inavyofanya.</p><p> Bi. Tippett: Ninamaanisha, hata licha ya ukweli kwamba - kwamba kuna uozo unaokuja na umri.</p><p> Bw. Sanford: Ni kuja mbali. Ni kwa sababu - kama, mwili wangu haukuuliza kupigwa nyundo na kuvunja, na kupasuliwa mgongo wake, na mifupa mingi kuvunjwa. Na ikasema, "Sawa, tujipange upya. Twende." Na sehemu ndogo tu ya mwili wangu haikupona. Pekee - unajua, inchi moja au mbili ya uti wa mgongo wangu haikuweza kuzaliwa upya. Ilianza kufanya kazi, sawa, na ndivyo itakavyofanya. Inaweza kuchanganyikiwa. Huenda isijue jinsi ya kukuza seli zinazofaa, lakini ninakuambia, inaelekea kuishi kwa muda mrefu iwezekanavyo.</p><p> Bi. Tippett: Kwa hiyo ikiwa tunajua kwamba kuhusu miili yetu, hata tunapozeeka, hata kama kuna mambo yanayotokea ndani yake ambayo hatupendi, tunawezaje kuishi tofauti katika ufahamu huo?</p><p> Bw. Sanford: Unajua, kuna jambo katika yoga. Inaitwa pranayama. Ni kupumua kwa yogic. Na unapumua katika mkao wa yoga kwa nafasi - ninaamini hii - kwa nafasi ambazo huwezi kuhisi. Hupumui tu kwa bicep ambayo unaweza kuikunja. Unajaribu kupata nguvu ya maisha kupitia nafasi ambazo huwezi kuhisi. Unapofanya hivyo, usawa wako huongezeka, nguvu zako huongezeka, kubadilika kwako huongezeka. Nadhani unapozungumza kuhusu kuheshimu mwili wako, lakini usifanye kuwa ufahamu wa maadili, unajua? Kama, “Loo, hapana, afadhali nile tu hiki au nisile kile,” na nishikwe kabisa na…</p><p> Bi. Tippett: Sawa. Sawa. Na hiyo ndiyo njia nyingine tunayoifanya pia.</p><p> Bw. Sanford: Na hiyo ndiyo njia nyingine tunayofanya.</p><p> Bi. Tippett: Ndiyo.</p><p> Bw. Sanford: Tunafanya kazi hadi tufikiri kwamba huo ni ufahamu wa kimaadili. Kwa hivyo, unajua, neema - napenda neema - au jukumu kwa mwili wangu. Hilo, kijana, halinipi moyo hata kidogo.</p><p> Bi. Tippett: Mm-hmm. Na wewe unasema kuwa na neema na mwili wako, hivyo ndivyo unavyomaanisha?</p><p> Bw. Sanford: Au ujue kwamba maeneo ambayo huhisi ndani yako ni ya kupendeza. Hawajapotea. Wao si kutokuwepo. Wao ni sehemu ya nguvu zako, ya nyuzi zako. Katika kipande cha kuni, sio tu nafaka za kuni. Ni nafasi tupu na nafasi kati ya chembe za mbao ambazo huifanya kuwa imara. Ni zote mbili. Na kwa hivyo ulimwengu unakuwa mwepesi na rahisi unapojumuisha zaidi yako hapa.</p><p> Bi. Tippett: Na unafikiri jinsi gani - kukabiliana na sehemu hizo za mwili wako ambazo hupendi kile kinachotokea kwao, ngozi inayozeeka, magoti yanayoumiza? Namaanisha, hayo ni matatizo madogo ukilinganisha na maumivu ambayo wewe...</p><p> Bw. Sanford: Hapana, hapana. Lakini - hapana, hii ni ngumu. Hili linahitaji uvumilivu. Ningependa kukuambia kuna ufahamu mmoja wa kichawi na ghafla yote ni rahisi. Hapana, ni kazi, kama kila kitu kingine. Najua, nadhani zaidi - sijui kwa undani zaidi, lakini tofauti na watu wengi, ni kiasi gani mwili wangu umechukua na kuelekea kuishi bado.</p><p> Kwa hivyo ninaangalia - unajua, nina maeneo - ngozi kwenye mwili wangu, unajua, vidonda vya zamani vya shinikizo na mambo ya zamani yaliyotokea - ambayo unaweza kuona ngozi inajitahidi kukaa na kushikilia. Sifanyi, "Loo, si kushikilia, dang it." Ninahisi kama, "Jamani, inafanya kazi kwa bidii iwezekanavyo," unajua? Je, utaionaje? Je, unaondoka hapa? Je, uwepo wako unabadilika unapoondoka hapa unaoruhusu mambo mengine? Ndiyo, mwili wangu hauponi kama ilivyokuwa zamani nilipokuwa na umri wa miaka 13. Hiyo ni kweli. Mwili wangu wa kimwili haufanyi hivyo. Lakini kwa sababu ya huruma ninayoweza kuhisi kwa mwili wangu, kwa wengine, kitu kingine ni uponyaji.</p><p> [Muziki]</p><p> Bi. Tippett: Una mtoto wa kiume mwenye umri wa miaka sita. Hakuna kitu ulimwenguni kilichojumuishwa zaidi kuliko mvulana wa miaka sita. Nishati safi.</p><p> Bw. Sanford: Ndiyo.</p><p> Bi. Tippett: Umbo safi. Mwanao anaufikiriaje mwili wako?</p><p> Bw. Sanford: Nilikuwa na wasiwasi sana kuhusu hili kabla sijawa mzazi. Nilifikiri kwamba angekuwa na masuala mengi kuliko yeye. Anapenda wazo kwamba atakuwa mrefu kuliko mimi mapema.</p><p> Bi. Tippett: Sawa.</p><p> Bw. Sanford: Na hajaelewa kabisa kwamba nina urefu wa karibu futi sita.</p><p> Bi. Tippett: Kwa sababu uko kwenye kiti cha magurudumu.</p><p> Bw. Sanford: Sawa.</p><p> Bi. Tippett: Ndiyo.</p><p> Mr. Sanford: Yeye hana kabisa kupata kwamba. Kwa hivyo anapenda sehemu hiyo. Yeye huwa anajipima dhidi yangu kila wakati. Paulo ni wa kushangaza. Kuna nyakati kadhaa ambapo tumeingia, kama vile, "Siku za Baba na Mimi." Kuna hadithi moja kwamba ilikuwa mbio za kupokezana, kama vile, shule yake ya awali au shule ya mapema. Ilikuwa kama aina hii ya kukimbia chini ya mkeka huu na kwenda mwisho na kurudi. Nami sikuweza kujipanga nao na kucheza nao mbio za kupeana, kwa hiyo akina baba wengine na wanawe walikuwa wakifanya hivyo. Lakini alifanya hivyo peke yake chini kando, na akakimbia chini na kisha akarudi, na akarudi na kunipa kubwa-tano ya juu. Na hivyo anajua kwamba siwezi kufanya mambo yote. Lakini aliporudi na kunipongeza na kwenda, "Hey, tulifanya hivyo," ilikuwa kama ukimya na upendo.</p><p> [Muziki]</p><p> Bi. Tippett: Kitabu cha Matthew Sanford ni <em>Waking: Memoir of Trauma and Transcendence</em> . DVD yake ni <em>Zaidi ya Ulemavu</em> . Yeye ndiye mwanzilishi na rais wa Mind Body Solutions huko Minnetonka, Minnesota.</p><p> Kama wengi wenu, mimi hufanya mazoezi ya yoga, kama vile wenzangu wengine: vinyasa, Iyengar, yoga moto. Unaweza kusoma kuhusu uzoefu wetu wa kibinafsi kwenye blogu yetu, na tungekaribisha hadithi zako pia. Pata hilo kwenye tovuti yetu - onbeing.org - pamoja na mazungumzo mengine na mwalimu mzuri wa yoga, Seane Corn. Unaweza kuchukua video akionyesha kile anachokiita "Sala ya Mwili." Ni dakika chache za kupendeza za neema, riadha na umakini wa kiroho. Na unaweza kutazama mazungumzo yangu ya ndani ya studio na Matthew Sanford au usikilize tena na upakue kipindi hiki. Hiyo yote ni onbeing.org.</p><p> Na ikiwa unatumia muda kwenye Facebook, Tumblr, au Twitter, utatupata katika maeneo hayo yote pia.</p><p> Mpango huu umetolewa na Chris Heagle, Nancy Rosenbaum, Susan Leem, na Stefni Bell. Anne Breckbill ndiye msanidi wetu wa Wavuti. Trent Gilliss ndiye mhariri wetu mkuu. Na mimi ni Krista Tippett.</p><p> Bw. Sanford: Na kisha, sasa, nyosha mikono yako moja kwa moja, moja kwa moja juu yako kana kwamba unachukua muda mrefu, kana kwamba wewe ni Superman anayeruka hewani. Na kisha, hata kama huwezi kufanya kile nina kuhusu kusema, ni sawa kwa sababu mimi pia siwezi kufanya hivyo, sawa? Ninataka uinue mikono yako yote miwili na miguu yako kutoka kwenye mkeka na kupanua. Shalabasana. Hata kama huwezi kuifanya, Tim, njoo, fanya hivyo. Na kupumua, na kisha kutolewa. Chukua mapumziko. Hiyo ni pozi gumu, kwa njia.</p><p> ***</p><p> <b>Mwaliko maalum: Miaka sita iliyopita Ellen Pavitt alikuwa katika ajali ya ndege iliyomfanya kupooza. Katika kukabiliana na ukweli wake mpya alihisi shauku kubwa ya kukua kiroho na kuwa na upendo zaidi. Sasa anaona matamanio hayo mawili kama kitu kimoja. Jiunge na mduara wa karibu na Pat Benincasa katika mazungumzo na Ellen Alhamisi hii: Tunaunda Ukweli Wetu Wenyewe. 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